[speechlesstx]

tw ;can't wait to see all the ads in swing State Virginia ;where Norfolk hosts the biggest Naval base,and the state heavily involved in the ship building industry, that the cuts in the Navy budget aren't significant.

Apparently the bayonet industry is none too pleased with his snide, immature remark.

TMZ spoke with multiple people in the bayonet industry who tell us they were shocked and even offended when Obama brought up the weapon during last night's debate.

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According to the official U.S. Marine Corps website, every Marine is STILL required to complete a bayonet training program... because "the weapon becomes just as effective [as a rifle] in close combat situations."

[talaniman]

What happened to all those Obama failed policies that Romney now agrees with?

Enough debate, cast my vote today, this is over until the final count as far as I'm concerned. Naw I didn't go with the new version of the Bush neo cons!

[speechlesstx]

Do you get your daily talking points straight from the DNC?

[tomder55]

Apparently the bayonet industry is none too pleased with his snide, immature remark.

Not to mention the fact that we are about to surrender Afghanistan to the Taliban... and all their horses.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

I think we've talked before about the wars George W. Bush lost... Afghanistan was the first. He lost that one when he got all excited about invading Iraq..

So, you can't lose a war that you've already lost.. It's only blame that you can shift around... But, I ain't buying any of it.

excon

[paraclete]

The time has come the Walrus said, to speak of many things, somehow I don't remember surrender being one of them.

A few years ago, in another century, the US surrendered Vietnam to the Vietnamese, oddly enough this hasn't necessarily being a bad thing for the Vietnamese. In the same century the US surrendered the Philippines to the Phillipinoes. I don't recall that necessarily being a bad thing. In this century the US surrendered Iraq to the Iraqi, I think the jury is still out on that one and common sense says that the sooner the US retreats from Afghanistan the better. Al Qaeda has now established itself in Mali so we can expect the US to need its resources to attack and subdue Mali, another place where foreign armies have not done well.

Thing is Tom, the US is too sophisticated to fight effectively in some of these places, because there are no set piece battles and they loose the advantage technology gives them, this is why they have resorted to drone strikes, targets of opportunity. Perhaps Obama was right, perhaps the day of the bayonet is over

[tomder55]

No Obama isn't right ;his snarky ignorant comments about the military proved he's unqualified for the position he holds.

[talaniman]

So should we start the draft back, or keep recycling people to fight a war YOU want? Have you volunteered yet?

Let the Afghans worry about their taliban countrymen.

[paraclete]

Let the Afghans worry about their taliban countrymen.

Yes Tal I agree, it is time for the Afghans to sort it out. The vacuum doesn't exist now that allowed the Taliban to take over. If that benighted country wants to live in the seventh century, let it. What I say is pull the plug on both Afghanistan and Pakistan, why should any of us be supporting them. A little dose of reality goes a long way

[tomder55]

So should we start the draft back, or keep recycling people to fight a war YOU want? Have you volunteered yet?

Let the Afghans worry about their taliban countrymen.

Your grandkids will be dealing with them.

[NeedKarma]

No Obama isn't right ;his snarky ignorant comments about the military proved he's unqualified for the position he holds.

Actually he proved that he's up-to-date on the US military requirements and he really put Romney in his place. You are one of the very few fervents who view that exchange as a negative for Obama... but then again you view everything as a negative for Obama so it's understandable.

[tomder55]

The only thing Obama knows about the Navy is that they play basketball on the deck of the Carl Vinson . How does the adm plan on doing it's "pivot the Asia-Pacific region" with a depleted fleet ?

[NeedKarma]

What is "pivot the Asia-Pacific region"?

[tomder55]

What is "pivot the Asia-Pacific region"?

Pivot to the Asia-Pacific region..

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul...pivot-20120702

[NeedKarma]

Bah, not interesting, certainly not to the voters.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

Let me see. If I were going to trust one of 'em, I'd pick the guy who got Ben Laden and NOT the guy who thinks Syria is the path to the sea for the Iranians...

Bwa, ha, ha ha ha.

excon

[talaniman]

What's the hurry? What's driving events for a "pivot" by so many boats at once? Or is this another neocon hunt for WMD, or the business interest to cash in?

Or contractors trying to stay in business? All of the above?!

Who pays for this after a tax cut for the wealthy?

[tomder55]

That's because you haven't thought it through . Iran's path to Mediterranean Sea is now through the Suez Canal. That is a path that presents a number of choke points the US fleet dominates . The Syrian relationship is crucial to Tehran for a number of reasons like supplying their surrogate terrorists like Hezzbolah . But it is also true that Tehran is building a naval base in Syria that will give them direct access to the Mediterranean ,and in doing so;threaten the Israeli coast .
Iran to Build Permanent Naval Base in Syria - YouTube

[tomder55]

Whats the hurry? Whats driving events for a "pivot" by so many boats at once? Or is this another neocon hunt for WMD, or the business interest to cash in?

Or contractors trying to stay in business? All of the above???!!!

Who pays for this after a tax cut for the wealthy?

Ummm the pivot is the Obama policy . It happens to be a policy I don't object to because as I said yesterday ;our greatest geopolitical foe is China.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

Thought it through?? I'm not smart enough to think.. But I AM smart enough to look at a map.. THAT casual observation tells me that Iran and Syria don't share a border. There's a country in the way, and those people may NOT want to give 'em a path...

Look. You can try to cover for this dildo, but it doesn't make him look smarter...

excon