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    Oct 3, 2012, 08:00 AM
    First time felony 5 clean record
    First time felony 5 clean record had possession of narcotics and drug tools.. someone who can tell me anything about what will happen I have no clue but I'm really upset and nervous about it cause I have no cluewhat to expect
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    Oct 3, 2012, 08:11 AM
    Oh and I live in Cleveland Ohio.. mind you I have a clean record well did
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    Oct 3, 2012, 03:05 PM
    Need help please answer!
    I have a clean record well as of yesterday and facing a felony five charge for criminal tools and possession of narcotics this is my first offense.. also I feel like it was an illegal search and pull over I'm obviously really upset and distraught does anyone know what might happen.. or what the best thing to do about the ituation might be... I'm clearly un educated in all this which is making me feel even worse any help please answer
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    Oct 3, 2012, 03:31 PM
    What drugs, how much, what vehicle infraction were you pulled over for (taillight, anything?), and how hidden were the drugs and tools? And what state?
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    Oct 4, 2012, 04:53 AM
    Hello s:

    Hire a good lawyer, and do what he says.. If the search was illegal, there's no evidence. No evidence, means no conviction..

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    Oct 4, 2012, 06:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by somethingpink85 View Post
    ... I'm clearly un educated in all this which is making me feel even worse any help please answer
    That's what your lawyer is for. Make sure he or she fully informs you about what to expect and what your options are.
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    Oct 4, 2012, 06:47 AM
    Don't talk to the police, don't even make a statement, Get an attorney, the first step is to see if there are grounds to get evidence throwno out for some reason, and to see if there is a error in the case. ** you already are convicted and going to prison in your question ( at least in your mind)

    Next if it is bad, like they arrested you in front of a bus of nuns who ar e all eye witness , then your lawyer will plea deal, same the state money, you get a lighter sentence.

    Also there is drug court, often programs ( if your locatoin has it) where you do rehab and at end of time, the charges all go away.

    Your first step, shut up to police and DA, get an attorney
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    Oct 5, 2012, 08:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by joypulv View Post
    What drugs, how much, what vehicle infraction were you pulled over for (taillight, anything?), and how hidden were the drugs and tools? And what state?
    Narcotics.. and we were in a bad part of town in Cleveland at a park which apparently looks suspicious once we left we got on the highway and the park rangers followed us on to the highway and pulled us over we then we were Asked if we had any drugs on us we denied and they looked in the vehicle saw a back cap and then we were hand cuffed we were put in the back of the vehicle then one officers searched are purses and found our drugs we were then taken to this station and asked if we had anything else on us we then admitted to the drug tools... Then later released and soon to be indited on two felony five charges... there goes my clean record... does that explain more
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    Oct 5, 2012, 08:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello s:

    Hire a good lawyer, and do what he says.. If the search was illegal, there's no evidence. No evidence, means no conviction..

    excon
    We got pulled over just for being in a bad part of town where apparently white folks are not supposed to be. After we were told to exit the vehicle they asked us where the drugs were we denied and they searched the vehicle found a part of a drug tool and them searched our bags and found the drugs. We were taken back to the station and after asked before being body searched if we had anything else we admitted to drug tools.. now facing two felony fives.. I feel like we were completely violated
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    Oct 6, 2012, 03:13 AM
    A good lawyer can work this as an illegal search, for being pulled over for no vehicle infraction.

    But you don't say what you were doing at the park. If drugs changed hands there, all the cops have to do is say they saw that.
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    Oct 6, 2012, 04:04 AM
    Hello pink:

    Sounds like an illegal search to me.

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    Oct 6, 2012, 09:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by joypulv View Post
    A good lawyer can work this as an illegal search, for being pulled over for no vehicle infraction.

    But you don't say what you were doing at the park. If drugs changed hands there, all the cops have to do is say they saw that.
    They saw no deal at the park.. we left onto the highway and seconds later from far behind we saw lights so they pulled us over for just being white and at the park...
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    Oct 6, 2012, 09:32 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by somethingpink85 View Post
    They saw no deal at the park.. we left onto the highway and seconds later from far behind we saw lights so they pulled us over for just being white and at the park...
    And it wasn't even police at least I thought... It was postal security... Like what?! Didn't expect they could do that
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    Oct 6, 2012, 09:33 PM
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    And it wasn't even police at least I thought ... It was postal security... Like what?!! Didn't expect they could do that
    I mean park security not postal ha ha
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    Oct 7, 2012, 06:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by somethingpink85 View Post
    ... the park rangers followed us on to the highway and pulled us over we then we were Asked if we had any drugs on us we denied and they looked in the vehicle saw a back cap ...
    They "looked in the vehicle"? Did they look in it from the outside, or did they search the vehicle?

    What is a "back cap"?
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    Oct 7, 2012, 06:27 AM
    Saying they 'saw no deal' is a cagey response. You need to tell your lawyer the TRUTH. Your lawyer is there to defend you, even if you bought or sold drugs, or murdered children and old ladies. And did they say they pulled you over for being white, or are you saying that?

    Pretend we are your lawyer!
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    Oct 7, 2012, 06:32 AM
    So, basically you were in a park, at night, that is known for drug activity. If you weren't there to score, what were you there for? It's quite possible that there was a sting operation going on that night and you were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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    Oct 7, 2012, 08:13 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by joypulv View Post
    Saying they 'saw no deal' is a cagey response. You need to tell your lawyer the TRUTH. Your lawyer is there to defend you, even if you bought or sold drugs, or murdered children and old ladies. ...
    Pretend we are your lawyer!
    Actually, no.

    What OP tells us is not protected by an attorney-client privilege. Although, as a practical matter, it is unlikely the prosecutor will find out about it.

    Also, if you tell your lawyer that you did the crime, he cannot knowingly have you give false testimony (that you didn't do it). So confiding in your attorney is, while usually a good idea, a judgment call.

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