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    #621

    Sep 29, 2012, 07:48 AM
    The girl was clearly not working for the county clerk's office . Clearly she was confused because the registration forms have to be returned to the county clerk's office when completed . Clearly she was a young volunteer for the local Romney campaign .


    Is this ambush video the best you got ? Gee ;you would think she was intimidating voters at the polls with billy clubs or something... and if you think that selective registration.
    Is a strategy that is only employed by one of the parties I'd be surprised . In my youth I worked on such campaign canvas drives for the Dems and I can assure you we were only looking to register select voters .Let the other side do their registration campaigns .THat's the way the game is played . AGAIN... all the more reason for proper voter ID .
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    #622

    Sep 29, 2012, 08:03 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The girl was clearly not working for the county clerk's office .
    Hello again, tom:

    It's only clear if you IGNORE what she said. Me?? I'm NOT going to do that. I know what I saw. It was a CRIME in process.. If you did it too, NO WONDER you think voter suppression is cool..

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    #623

    Sep 29, 2012, 08:28 AM
    And then I heard about this. I wonder how many more there are like this one.
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    Sep 29, 2012, 08:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:

    It's only clear if you IGNORE what she said. Me??? I'm NOT gonna do that. I know what I saw. It was a CRIME in process.. If you did it too, NO WONDER you think voter suppression is cool..

    excon
    It is not the practice of the county clerks to send out young volunteers to canvas grocery stores and do registration drives. If it were ;there would've been something clearly indicating that this was a drive by the local government and a public notice . You're really fishing here.
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    #625

    Sep 29, 2012, 08:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    And then I heard about this. I wonder how many more there are like this one.
    I wonder when the arrests will begin? This is illegal material.

    http://www.floridacriminallawblog.com/2009/05/recording_telephone_conversati.html
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    #626

    Sep 29, 2012, 08:53 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    it is not the practice of the county clerks to send out young volunteers to canvas grocery stores and do registration drives..
    Hello again, tom:

    I'll give you that. However, who signs her paycheck, or whether she's a volunteer, changes NOTHING... In fact, it CONFIRMS that Republicans are SUPPRESSING the vote... That's what we've been saying all along.

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    Sep 29, 2012, 08:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    I wonder when the arrests will begin? This is illegal material.

    Recording Telephone Conversations and Communications in Florida :: Florida Criminal Law Blog
    Why the recording illegal? "The volunteer, who was not identified, did not hang up before moving onto her next call. Her pitch to the next person was picked up on the first person's answering machine."
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    Sep 29, 2012, 08:58 AM
    The statement made in this video is both unfortunate and inaccurate,” Williams said. “My office does not and will not engage in partisan voter registration. It is the duty of the clerk's office to ensure that elections are conducted in a fair and honest manner; this includes allowing anyone to register to vote regardless of their political party affiliation.”

    It is legal for party workers to target supporters of a particular candidate during voter registration drives, but they cannot deny forms to people who back another candidate.

    The current chairman of the El Paso County Republican Party, Eli Bremer, said in an interview that the woman in the video is 20-years-old and was in her first day on the job as a victory office staff member. Bremer said the local GOP works closely with the RNC victory office and that “one thing they hammer into you during training is that every paper you collect must be turned in to the clerk's office.”

    Bremer said he talked at length with the woman, whose name has not been released, and said she was merely flustered by the shopper's questions and misidentified her employer. He insisted there was no collaboration on the voter registration drive between the victory office and Williams or the clerk's office.
    Video falsely claims to show Colorado county clerk employee registering only supporters of Mitt Romney - Political Intelligence - A national political and campaign blog from The Boston Globe - Boston.com

    The person who posted the video, whose YouTube username is "golddiggermom," denied the Clerk's office's request to remove the part about the woman incorrectly stating she works for them.
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    Sep 29, 2012, 08:59 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    I wonder when the arrests will begin? This is illegal material.
    Hello dad:

    Me too. But, somehow I don't think it'll happen.. Talk about shooting the messenger... You just don't like it cause you got CAUGHT.

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    Sep 29, 2012, 09:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, tom:

    I'll give you that. However, who signs her paycheck, or whether she's a volunteer, changes NOTHING... In fact, it CONFIRMS that Republicans are SUPPRESSING the vote... That's what we've been saying all along.

    excon
    Please... this is no different that ACORN of SEIU registering voters that they think will help their political goals . I've worked campaigns and offered to drive voters to the polls. Now ;if someone called I'd pick them up . But ;if I was doing the calling ;I'd make sure they were registered in the party I was working for . That is how elections are conducted at the local level.
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    Sep 29, 2012, 09:25 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello dad:

    Me too. But, somehow I don't think it'll happen.. Talk about shooting the messenger... You just don't like it cause you got CAUGHT.

    excon
    Its not about that. Its about the law. Even stupid people get a break sometimes. Its like having been searched and they found drugs without the warrant. That is why there are rules surrounding the recording of persons.
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    #632

    Sep 29, 2012, 12:41 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Tal, you know this has been in the works for much, much longer than your deliberately deceptive six months. Not to mention the faxt that elections have fixed dates, it's only logical to have the rules in place for the election. Your side is doing all they can to avoid implementation which is the whole point of a law.
    We can file the lawsuits but it's the courts who strike the law down because you didn't cross your T's and dot your I's. So its not like you haven't had the time to do it right you don't seem to have the inclination.

    I mean if things were as fair as you say why do the courts strike the law down and send it back to the state to make changes or drop the law? Or just whack it from the get go?

    Naw its NOT the dems blocking you it's the sloppy way you present the law. Good idea, sloppy implementation.
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    #633

    Oct 2, 2012, 08:05 AM
    The Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification

    "I expected more photo IDs to have been issued by this time," Simpson said. "For this reason, I accept Petitioners' argument that in the remaining five weeks before the general election, the gap between the photo IDs issued and the estimated need will not be closed.... Consequently, I am not still convinced in my predictive judgment that there will be no voter disenfranchisement arising out of the Commonwealth's implementation of a voter identification requirement for purposes of the upcoming election. Under these circumstances, I am obliged to enter a preliminary injunction."
    Seems the court cannot trust the state to handle its business for THIS election.

    Neither do I given the constant changes. Don't you guys get you have to have a credible process in place when you pass a law? Back to the drawing board, you have two years, do it right!!
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    #634

    Oct 2, 2012, 08:08 AM
    Hello again,

    A judge blocks Pennsylvania from enforcing voter ID law, citing "disenfranchisement" concerns. Wow.. Whoda thunk that??

    The NEED for ID wasn't the issue, as we've been saying all along.. It was the PROCESS that was flawed. It's spelled p-r-o-c-e-s-s...

    One down, 32 to go.

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    Oct 2, 2012, 09:44 AM
    The judge reversed his own decisions based on State Supreme court "guidance" . They told him basically to find some way to reverse yourself. So that is what he did.

    Here is the language of the State Supreme Court's instructions :
    Overall, we are confronted with an ambitious effort on the part of the General Assembly to bring the new identification procedure into effect within a relatively short timeframe and an implementation process which has by no means been seamless in light of the serious operational constraints faced by the executive branch. Given this state of affairs, we are not satisfied with a mere predictive judgment based primarily on the assurances of government officials, even though we have no doubt they are proceeding in good faith.

    Thus, we will return the matter to the Commonwealth Court to make a present assessment of the actual availability of the alternate identification cards on a developed record in light of the experience since the time the cards became available. In this regard, the court is to consider whether the procedures being used for deployment of the cards comport with the requirement of liberal access which the General Assembly attached to the issuance of PennDOT identification cards. If they do not, or if the Commonwealth Court is not still convinced in its predictive judgment that there will be no voter disenfranchisement arising out of the Commonwealth's implementation of a voter identification requirement for purposes of the upcoming election, that court is obliged to enter a preliminary injunction.


    http://www.pacourts.us/OpPosting/Sup...14-2012pco.pdf

    The real problem here was that the Penn DOT refused to make the issuance of a ID easier. They sabotaged the law (probably under the orders of their Dem bosses).

    Oh an one more thing . The judge says it's OK for poll workers to ask for the IDs . But people who don't produce them can still vote . Now there is a recipe for confusion !
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    #636

    Oct 2, 2012, 10:00 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The real problem here was that the Penn DOT refused to make the issuance of a ID easier. They sabotaged the law (probably under the orders of their Dem bosses).
    Hello again, tom:

    Given that the only cheaters we found recently were REPUBLICANS, you should be thrilled the law was struck down.. Now you can hire those crooks to register dead Republicans... Better get a lot... Romney is down by 9.

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    Oct 2, 2012, 10:03 AM
    See my addition about the IDs

    Given that the only cheaters we found recently were REPUBLICANS
    You mean like the Dem politician who was caught voting in 2 states ?
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    Oct 2, 2012, 10:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    see my addition about the IDs


    You mean like the Dem politician who was caught voting in 2 states ?
    Their memories are extremely selective. Good thing we're here to give a few reminders.
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    Oct 2, 2012, 10:22 AM
    Yup ;and early voting gives them a chance to vote at multiple locations .
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    #640

    Oct 2, 2012, 12:29 PM
    You guys lose in court its foul on the judge or sabotage by democrats. Never is it your own short sighted screw ups. That's why republican appointed judges keep slapping you down.

    If you just settle down, look deeper and be more thoughtful with your ideas, they wouldn't STINK so bad. Or stop trying to screw those you don't like, of which the list is ENDLESS! They are still trying to sort out the last debacle you guys caused with this Sproul fellow. And the continuing back pedaling of supporting Todd Akins in Missouri for the senate.

    Or waiting for Ryan Romney to tell us who gets screwed when the extract 5 trillion more dollars from the economy. Or why the scaredy fat cats you all call job creators ain't doing their JOB... wait for it... you blame on everybody but THEM!

    I love it when you guys screw yourself with BS of your own making! I really do!

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