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    Jul 16, 2012, 07:18 AM
    The Taxers
    Hello:

    I'm a Taxer.. I want to SEE the tax returns. Just show me the returns. Why won't he release them? What's Romney hiding?

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    Jul 16, 2012, 07:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello:

    I'm a Taxer.. I wanna SEE the tax returns. Just show me the returns. Why won't he release them? What's Romney hiding??

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    Romney shouldn't release anything until Obama has released all his records... and say as much since that wasn't an issue with the dems
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    Jul 16, 2012, 07:42 AM
    I bet you are a Bain'er too . But yes ,he should release more tax returns... then the Obots can point fingers and accuse him of being rich.
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    Jul 16, 2012, 08:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I bet you are a Bain'er too . But yes ,he should release more tax returns ...then the Obots can point fingers and accuse him of being rich.
    Hello tom:

    Bain'er sounds too much like Boehner, so I AIN'T one of them. But, yeah. They can accuse him of being rich. But, since he's not denying it, they'll be out of gas... Or will they??

    What Romney is worried about is that in SOME of those years, like GE before him, he paid NO taxes at all. Oh, I'm sure he did so LEGALLY, but it's not going to look good to the average American. How did George Will put it? He said it would be impolitic of Romney to have avoided taxes, and he's IN the politics business.

    The overriding issue is that he MUST have known this was going to come up.. It did during his run for governor.. It came up during the primary's. But, his campaign looks flatfooted. They're STILL dancing around even after people like Bill Crystal said he should release them.. And, he's Going to release them. Until he does, he's taking a BIG hit.

    How well can he manage the country if he can't manage his campaign?

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    Jul 16, 2012, 08:25 AM
    Nothing NEEDS to come out about Romney because all of Obama's secrecy hasn't been important to lefties the last 3.5 years.
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    Jul 16, 2012, 08:26 AM
    Yes he is a clumsy campaigner . We already have a supurb campaigner running the country . Yeah that worked out for us .

    I'll take a guy who is a fixer.. Who gave up a couple years from a very lucrative business to manage a crisis like the Olympics and salvaged it from the disaster it was destined to become without his intervention.

    Btw . If the President is going to wallow in the mud then Romney has proven himself more than capable of playing that game too.

    Yes ,as Bill Kristol said ;Romney should release them ;take a temporary hit ;and move on. It will not be an issue in the fall if he deals with it now .
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    Jul 16, 2012, 04:03 PM
    So you are saying the country needs a manager but the problem isn't people managing it is obstruction
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    Jul 16, 2012, 04:55 PM
    Romney is a rich guy who wants to be richer in a broke country. He is good at signing his name, and that's all Grover and the boys want. That's why he can't release any more info, because for one its none of you middle class poor peoples business. Its legal, and you wouldn't understand it any way you morons.

    How dare you question a white man of means and breeding with your petty concerns. We should just do what he says and pay him, and be grateful such a busy man would save us from the great unwashed, and our own idiosy.

    Hail Mitt. The masses you would rule are obviously ignorant of your great benevolence! Ungrateful b@stards!! They don't know who you are and how dare they question their bettors!

    Just don't look up while he pees on your head.
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    Jul 16, 2012, 05:15 PM
    We have had a President for 3 1/2 years ;and all you know about him is what he chose to reveal in his ghost written auto-biographies ;and a doctors note telling us he was in good health.
    So you should stop the pretense of caring about the past of our Presidents when you voted for someone who's only claim to fame was a clever slogan.
    Tell you what. Romney should reveal 1 years tax filing for every year Obama unseals his Illinois State Senate files .How about 1 years file for any of the following :
    University of Chicago Law School scholarly articles
    Harvard Law Review articles
    Harvard Law School records
    Columbia University records
    Columbia University senior thesis
    Occidental College records
    All college financial aid received
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    Jul 16, 2012, 06:09 PM
    Such sour gripes and so far from the election, what can we expect to hear as the great day approaches. Ding Dong the King is dead, all hail the King, or was that the witch, I forget which
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    Jul 17, 2012, 07:08 AM
    I just have to laugh at anyone whining about Romney being a rich guy (wanting to be richer no less) after Lurch - the guy who parked his yacht in RI to avoid taxes on it - was their nominee just few years back.

    It's also odd that WaPo managed to 'obtain' GWB's college transcripts but no one can 'obtain' anything from Obama's past other than his "choom gang" legacy.
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    Jul 17, 2012, 07:16 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    we have had a President for 3 1/2 years ;and all you know about him is what he chose to reveal in his ghost written auto-biographies ;and a doctors note telling us he was in good health.
    Well there's another big fat lie.
    Obama has released 11 years of tax returns.
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    Jul 17, 2012, 07:51 AM
    Did I write that he didn't release his taxes ? No . See my follow up replies . The truth is that the American people still don't know jack about the President's past beyond what he chooses to reveal to the compliant dinosaur media. The people of America voted for him on a vague promise of change and transformation . Well yeah he delivered . But just like the word "progress" ;not all progress or change is good .
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    Jul 17, 2012, 07:58 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    did I write that he didn't release his taxes ? No .
    No, you wrote
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55
    all you know about him is what he chose to reveal in his ghost written auto-biographies ;and a doctors note telling us he was in good health
    which is a lie. Not sure why you are backpedalling now, are you saying two different things then? This thread is about releasing tax returns. You're all over the map. You say the american only know those two things then you admit that they know all about his financials since you admit he released 11 years of tax returns. Which is it?
    Were you intentionally trying to mislead people?
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    Jul 17, 2012, 08:19 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    No, you wrote
    which is a lie. Not sure why you are backpedalling now, are you saying two different things then? This thread is about releasing tax returns. You're all over the map. You say the american only know those two things then you admit that they know all about his financials since you admit he released 11 years of tax returns. Which is it?
    Were you intentionally trying to mislead people?
    Lol No I stand by my statement that Americans either don't know ,or are willfully ignorant about the President . The biggest reason for that is that he has intentionally sealed the information from the public perusal .

    He had no public record to speak of before elected .But he has one now ,and it is a record of arrogant incompetence. We may not know the Obama that was... but we are well aware of the President Obama that is... and what he is ;is a failure... He can't seal that record.
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    Jul 17, 2012, 08:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I just have to laugh at anyone whining about Romney being a rich guy (wanting to be richer no less) after Lurch - the guy who parked his yacht in RI to avoid taxes on it - was their nominee just few years back.

    It's also odd that WaPo managed to 'obtain' GWB's college transcripts but no one can 'obtain' anything from Obama's past other than his "choom gang" legacy.
    The big difference of course is that Romney earned his money . JF Kerry got his by marrying rich ladies.
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    Jul 17, 2012, 08:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    lol No I stand by my statement that Americans either don't know ,or are willfully ignorant about the President . The biggest reason for that is that he has intentionally sealed the information from the public perusal .
    Clearly that's wrong - he released 11 years of his tax forms. I'm not sure you're paying attention here or willfully ignoring that.
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    Jul 17, 2012, 08:30 AM
    NK, clearly you're having comprehension issues.
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    Jul 17, 2012, 08:31 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    NK, clearly you're having comprehension issues.
    No sir, it is yourself and your bromance partner. :-) He continuously ignores the facts and makes some emotional plea that "we don't know him" when clearly he has released more personal tax info than the Romulan.
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    Jul 17, 2012, 08:40 AM
    Romulan! I like it. His taxes means nothing.. All they show is that Obama is someone who thinks government should do charity so that cheap people don't have to .

    I'm talking about real disclosure so we can get to see the heart and soul of the most opaque President we have had in my lifetime.

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