[speechlesstx]

That's already been debunked as more left-wing hysteria about nothing. I'm just waiting for you Obamanoids to start bragging about his excellent record of rebuilding the economy, creating jobs... oh wait, he HAS no record to brag about. But like all leftists he is excellent with a cliche:

Not now. Not with so much at stake. This isn't just another election. This is a make-or-break moment for America's middle class. We've been through much to turn back now. We've come too far to abandon the change we fought for these past few years. Virginia, we've got to move forward, to the future that we imagined in 2008. We've got to move forward to that future where everyone gets a fair shot, and everyone does their fair share, and everyone plays by the same rules.

That's the choice in this election. And that's why I'm running for a second term as President of the United States of America.

[tomder55]

Oh yeah ,I heard that one ! That was the speech he gave to the half empty arena this weekend !

[speechlesstx]

That's the one, an empty speech to an empty arena by an empty suit.

[excon]

That's the one, an empty speech to an empty arena by an empty suit.

Hello again, Steve:

I call your half filled basketball arena, and raise you an EMPTY football stadium for an important Romney speech.

Bwa, ha ha ha.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Dude, that was over 2 months ago and was the result of security issues. Obama's was over the weekend and was the result of leading from behind armed with nothing but clichés.

[FirstChair]

Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Why is anyone talking about vaginas? Why not prostates?

excon;3109695]Hello again, Steve:

I don't know how you missed it, but right wing states are passing LAWS that require a foreign object be put all UP INSIDE the vaginas of women who are seeking a legal abortion.. They're NOT passing laws about prostates..

Hold on now... he does have a GOOD point since the owners of prostates should have EQUAL accountability. GREAT idea, let's start inserting foreign objects in your private parts and invading your family jewels…it's ALL NUT*S anyway.

I plead the Fifth and I didn't drink the Kool-Aid either.

[speechlesstx]

The day I can push out a baby through my prostate is the day I'll say men must have an intrarectal ultrasound prior to an abortion. But since that's impossible it's as pointless as the hysteria over something that's already done by the abortion provider in the majority of cases anyway.

P.S. Did you all know Obama was attacking women all along with his billions in budget cuts? Anderson Cooper discusses:

COOPER: President Obama himself agreed to take money out. His budget, in fact, for 2013 specifies taking billions of dollars out for this. But you don’t say he’s targeting women, do you? I haven’t heard MoveOn.org say President Obama is targeting women’s health, that the Democrats are targeting women’s health five months ago. Now it’s Republicans targeting women’s health because they are wanting to do it.

RUBEN: You know, the fact is you have — we have millions of –

(CROSSTALK)

COOPER: So when –

RUBEN: — MoveOn members who benefit from programs –

COOPER: So when President Obama –

RUBEN: Rely on these programs — COOPER: Wanted to –

RUBEN: We fight president — we’ve fought President Obama all the time.

COOPER: So — so where’s your ad for — where’s your ad saying President Obama is targeting women?

RUBEN: We’ve run ads against President Obama. But the fact is if you want to look at who is consistently targeting women, who is — you know, who’s the party that’s trying to eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood, who is the party that has consistently been trying to cut funding for cervical cancer and Pap smears? That’s the Republicans.

And we’re going to call that out. And of course they’re going to try to dodge and get away from that. But the fact is, it’s true. There are over $200 million of 2013 funding that they are zeroing out.

COOPER: And Obama’s 2013 budget when –

RUBEN: And the bottom line is this is — we shouldn’t be having this conversation. Why are we having a conversation — look, you have student loan rates –

COOPER: Because my job is to report on facts. Not to meet your agenda. And when President Obama suggests in his 2012 budget cutting billions of dollars from this, I don’t see a MoveOn.org ad saying President Obama is attacking women. You only seem to be targeting Republicans because that meets your political agenda.

RUBEN: I just — I just don’t think that’s true. I mean look –

COOPER: So when President Obama wants to cut money from this, that’s not targeting women?

RUBEN: President Obama wants to — look, was it a problem –

COOPER: Yes or no? Does that target women when President Obama wants to take billions of dollars out of this?

RUBEN: When President Obama is taking billions of dollars out of this, that’s wrong and will have a disproportionate effect on women.

COOPER: So he’s targeting women.

So why is no one attacking Obama for his "war on women?"

[talaniman]

Obama is a surgeon. The conservatives are axe wielding slashers, and Romney is the vehicle to rubber stamp their slashing so he will get rich. That's what happens when a corporate equity raider marries the far right.

A horror movie for the American people.

[paraclete]

I don't know Tal he might consoldiate a few banks and merge a few auto makers and tidy up that untidy clutter of untilities

[FirstChair]

Obama is a surgeon. The conservatives are axe wielding slashers, and Romney is the vehicle to rubber stamp their slashing so he will get rich. Thats what happens when a corporate equity raider marries the far right.

A horror movie for the American people.

"Obama is a surgeon"

I don't know about that, but what about him having brain surgery?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/do-t...eory-says-yes/

"conservatives are axe wielding slashers"

No folks, it's not the Apocalypse, yet…and don't you mean conservatives are [TAX and SPENDING] wielding slashers..

"Romney is the vehicle to rubber stamp their slashing so he will get rich"

Get rich? What's your point?. Romney's already rich to the tune of $250 Million. We need his stamp of approval so we can all become more self-sufficient and self-reliable.

"Corporate equity raider marries the far right"

Thank goodness he sees the trees in the forest and knows which ones to chop down for the good of the Nation... We the people...

"Neither let us be slandered from our duty by false accusations against us, nor frightened from it by menaces of destruction to the Government nor of dungeons to ourselves. Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it." Abraham Lincoln

[talaniman]

I don't know Tal he might consolidate a few banks and merge a few auto makers and tidy up that untidy clutter of utilities

If its profitable he will but that consolidates all the banking industry into a huge monopoly, and that means trimming of duplication, and no competition. But making utility and infrastructure upgrades is needed, but good luck making them use their enormous profits for such things, as our conservatives don't believe in bridges and roads so forget electricity, and cable.

Hello new rightie(?), welcome aboard.

QUOTE by FirstChair;"Obama is a surgeon"

I don't know about that, but what about him having brain surgery?
Do These Pics Show Obama's Had Brain Surgery? Wacky New Theory Says 'Yes' | TheBlaze.com

The numbers don't lie, the private sector has grown 4 million jobs, look it up, and has already eclipsed the dismal job creating of the Bush years, slow, but steady, the jobs being lost are in the private sector, you know the ones that employ your neighbors, cops and teachers, all y the states by governments. But the best example is the Auto industry, jobs saved, industry retooled and expanding. Unlike the republican wish to make it disappear, and claiming the assets, both in products, inventory, and workers pensions.

"conservatives are axe wielding slashers"

No folks, it's not the Apocalypse, yet…and don't you mean conservatives are [TAX and SPENDING] wielding slashers..

No, I meant the far right nut jobs who are to paranoid to work with others for reasonable solutions that help us all, and who believe it's their way or the highway. You aren't one of those are you?

"Romney is the vehicle to rubber stamp their slashing so he will get rich"

Get rich? What's your point?. Romney's already rich to the tune of $250 Million. We need his stamp of approval so we can all become more self-sufficient and self-reliable.

You won't do it by making him even richer that's for sure, but you wingers think he will save you from yourselves. Read his plan for yourself, he makes sure he gets much richer, and your kids and you will pay for it. Explain how that makes you self reliant, and self sufficient? It makes you broke is what it does, YOU, as well as me! Funny how that works when you vote to screw yourself, and think you are screwing me!

"Corporate equity raider marries the far right"

Thank goodness he sees the trees in the forest and knows which ones to chop down for the good of the Nation... We the people...

Your people, what about us on the left? Or in the middle? I thought we the people meant all the people, not just the chosen people.

"Neither let us be slandered from our duty by false accusations against us, nor frightened from it by menaces of destruction to the Government nor of dungeons to ourselves. Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it." Abraham Lincoln[

You righties are an embarrassment to poor Abe, I assume you are a rightie, but I could be wrong.

[tomder55]

No, I meant the far right nut jobs who are to paranoid to work with others for reasonable solutions that help us all, and who believe it's their way or the highway. You aren't one of those are you?

Lol reasonable solutions ? The left doesn't even want to slow the growth of government.. Your idea of reasonable solutions can be found in the Fabian's playbook . So long as the progressive agenda gets advanced ,you'll settle for a slow and steady progress... in the spirit of compromise of course . So your President starts his negotiation position with a radical idea... like forcing churches to pay for "free " contraception... and then settles for their insurance paying for it .

[talaniman]

Lol reasonable solutions ? The left doesn't even want to slow the growth of government.. Your idea of reasonable solutions can be found in the Fabian's playbook . So long as the progressive agenda gets advanced ,you'll settle for a slow and steady progress... in the spirit of compromise of course .

It would be steadier and faster if you gys would help instead of holler. When there is a grand deal you guys run away, so nothing gets done. Or filibuster so nothing gets done. Or critisize others for not doing enough, when in truth, its the right who have done nothing.You thing because we call you the right, you think you are right, but in truth you guys don't work with anything thats not a HOLY owed subsidiary of your own thinking.


So your President starts his negotiation position with a radical idea... like forcing churches to pay for "free " contraception... and then settles for their insurance paying for it .

They were already paying for them, and have been, Where have you been?? But it makes a better right wing argument when you say the church pays for them.......see what I mean about hollering and running? The rights agenda to destroy the government of the people, from within, and replace it with an oligarchy will FAIL!

The best example I can give besidees the right wing congress stopping job creation, is the death panels that you righties hollered about, and when they didn't appear, you made them yourseves at the state level. Then blamed it on some one else. Its the right wing thats say the have good intentions(?), but trying to take us straight to hell.

Say it with me its our country, not just yours!!!

Bet you can't say it because you think its all your country!

[tomder55]

Your grand deals always move forward your agenda. I see no basis for a grand deal when the goals are so different . You want to expand the size ,power ,and scope of the Federal government.. I want it reduced. There is no grand compromise for that . You holler about Ryan ;you call his plan draconian. I say reducing the rate of government growth is not all that draconian . The plans put out by the Repubics are already a compromise in my book . I hold my nose and support them because right now there is nothing better for me to support.

[excon]

You want to expand the size ,power ,and scope of the Federal government .. I want it reduced.

Hello again, tom:

It's right wing spin. It's just not so. If it IS, could you find a Democrat to quote??

I want it REDUCED too. I just want to do it DIFFERENTLY than you. So does Obama.. That's what the grand bargain was about, after all.

So, as long as we talk PASSED each other, ain't nothing going to get done. Politically, the right wing thinks doing NOTHING is going to be blamed on Obama. It's ALL about politics. You remember what the FIRST thing Mitch McConnell said... And, that's what he's done.

The question is, can you continue to fool the public... I'm not sure you can't. The public ain't real bright, and you're COUNTING on it.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Obama is a surgeon.

Then he should definitely be sued for malpractice.

[speechlesstx]

I want it REDUCED too. I just wanna do it DIFFERENTLY than you. So does Obama..

Bahahahahahahaha!! That must be why he wants to force religious organizations to surrender their constitutional rights and bow to his agenda and submit an absurd $3.8 trillion budget that even Dems wouldn't consider.

[talaniman]

I want a government that protects and serves, ALL of us. You don't want a government, you want a master.

Your way, or no way huh?? Well you ain't getting my piece of the pie to impress your masters. And your Paul Ryan prays to Ayn Rand,

Ayn Rand or Jesus Christ? Conservatives Can't Have It Both Ways | | AlterNet

I see why you hold your nose, can't blame you!

[excon]

Bahahahahahahaha!!!!!

Hello again, Steve:

You're just pissed that I took my rightful place in our league. FIRST! And, it's, bWa ha ha ha.

excon

[speechlesstx]

I want a government that protects and serves, ALL of us. You don't want a government, you want a master.

Says the guy who defends Big Brother himself.

Obama Administration Security Official: We Don't Need to Subpoena Reporters Anymore Because We Already Know Who They're Talking To

Peter Suderman | May 7, 2012

You can still find a bold bullet point on Change.gov—a set of promises direct from "the office of the President-elect"—that insists Obama will "protect whistleblowers" within the government.

"We need to empower federal employees as watchdogs of wrongdoing and partners in performance," it says. "Barack Obama will strengthen whistleblower laws to protect federal workers who expose waste, fraud, and abuse of authority in government."

But as Edward Wasserman points out, you can't find much evidence of this protection in the Obama administration's lengthy record of attacks on individuals who've actually helped get out information about the government during Obama's term.

Wasserman's blistering indictment of the Obama administration's hyper-aggressive pursuit of government whistleblowers, first delivered at April's Logan Symposium on Investigative Journalism, is worth reading in full. But the following bit is particularly terrifying:

The public is generally unaware of how essential nominally classified information is to coverage of diplomatic and strategic news. As Steven Aftergood, director of the Federation of American Scientists’ government secrecy project, put it: “The administration’s aggressive pursuit of leaks represents a challenge to the practice of national security reporting, which depends on the availability of unauthorized sources if it is to produce something more than ‘authorized’ news.”

What’s behind the administration’s fervor isn’t clear, but the news media have largely rolled over and yawned. A big reason is that prosecutors aren’t hassling reporters as they once did. Thanks to the post-9/11 explosion in government intercepts, electronic surveillance, and data capture of all imaginable kinds — the NSA is estimated to have intercepted 15-20 trillion communications in the past decade — the secrecy police have vast new ways to identify leakers.

So they no longer have to force journalists to expose confidential sources. As a national security representative told Lucy Dalglish, director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, “We’re not going to subpoena reporters in the future. We don’t need to. We know who you’re talking to.”

Investigative reporters are supposed to be the ones keeping an eye on the government. Instead, it turns out, it's the other way around.

Wasserman, who is the Knight Professor of Journalism Ethics at Washington & Lee University, frames his argument as a challenge to the press to stand up to the administration's attack on journalistic sourcing. I'd certainly like to see a lot more of that as well. But the bigger problem—the root problem—isn't the press; it's the Obama administration's hypocritical and legally dubious pursuit of the leakers and whistleblowers that President Obama once praised and promised to defend.

Yep, I want a master. Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha!!

Your way, or no way huh?? Well you ain't getting my piece of the pie to impress your masters. And your Paul Ryan prays to Ayn Rand,

Ayn Rand or Jesus Christ? Conservatives Can't Have It Both Ways | | AlterNet

I see why you hold your nose, can't blame you!

Doesn't Fantasyland and doublethink ever get old with you guys?

Ryan Shrugged