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    #101

    Apr 12, 2012, 08:30 AM
    You are right, I am against abortions, but I be damned if I make that decision for another. But its just not right to bring any child in the world, and not give them a chance for life as they grow. And despite the republican women who speak out this campaign season, they are rich enough to have choices and opportunities poor women don't have.

    Its cause and effect, and for all your good intentions and actions in YOUR personal life, you cannot ignore the fact that right wing politicians don't give a damn about poor people, including all those single moms who need more than what they have.

    The last thing a rich guy needs is more money, for more sweat shops, and he created jobs where sweat shops are LEGAL!! Profits before people is a screwed up way of running a business, but you keep defending them until you, and your wife need to gat in the system. You are in Texas, so you do know of the laid off teachers, and the poor people being thrown off medicaid, poor working people who you would rather tax, than help!

    Meet me in the middle, and we can solve this. Sitting at the end of the hall, throwing rocks solves nothing! Maybe I can turn you on to some good hip hop. There is some you know!
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    #102

    Apr 12, 2012, 09:03 AM
    Everyone has the choice to say no, Tal. No to easy sex, no to abortion. Don't make others pay for your poor choices... personal responsibility. That used to be a noble concept...
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    #103

    Apr 12, 2012, 10:30 AM
    Hello again, Steve, and you too TUT:

    Somehow I KNEW that Walkers repeal of the state equivalent of the Lilly Ledbetter law wasn't just getting rid of a duplication, as you suggested... Oh, no! The state court threshold is MUCH easier to reach than the federal one is, so repealing this law has the effect of denying MILLIONS of Wisconsin women the right to SUE for equal pay..

    War on women? I'd certainly say so. You, Steve?? Not so much.

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    #104

    Apr 12, 2012, 11:04 AM
    Oh pish posh, all a woman has to do is pick up the phone, make a call and file a complaint. Then she can sue her heart out. I already pointed out that filing a complaint with the feds was REQUIRED prior to filing a lawsuit regardless of Wisconsin law or any NY Times editorial.
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    #105

    Apr 12, 2012, 11:06 AM
    Can we discuss a real problem, like gas and grocery prices or the national debt? I get that when you don't have a record to run on you make stuff up but geez, this "war on women" nonsense is stupid and does nothing to solve real issues.
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    #106

    Apr 13, 2012, 06:21 AM
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    #107

    Apr 13, 2012, 06:47 AM
    Good to see the Dems using Fox News tactics. They learned from the best!
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    #108

    Apr 13, 2012, 07:21 AM
    LOL, amazing how you righties can dismiss real people with real problems by saying it's a straw man.
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    #109

    Apr 13, 2012, 08:42 AM
    What's more amazing is how you lefties can make a huge deal out of nothing. There is no Republican war on women.

    P.S. NK, what does Fox News have to do with this? Fox seems to be your Godwin's law.
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    #110

    Apr 13, 2012, 10:22 AM
    Okay, its not a right wing war on women. We just can't afford to support them through joblessness, low wages, lack of choices, and lack of opportunities. Right? We shouldn't allow them abortions, but we nor they, should allow them contraception either.

    Why can't they keep their legs closed, and say NO, to the bums that use sweet words and attention to use them for their bodies!

    Am I getting close to your thinking yet?

    While we are at it, lets give more money to Mitt, and his corporate friends so they can build more sweat shops in Malaysia, invest in India, and get subsidized by tax payer money to help them.

    Oh and don't forget all those prisons we need for when the poor people dare to break the law and steal bread, food stamps, and do drugs!!

    See I can be a right winger too! Give it up, I nailed it!
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    #111

    Apr 13, 2012, 10:26 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Give it up, I nailed it!
    Hello tal:

    You did!

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    #112

    Apr 16, 2012, 07:07 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Okay, its not a right wing war on women. We just can't afford to support them thru joblessness, low wages, lack of choices, and lack of opportunities. Right?? We shouldn't allow them abortions, but we nor they, should allow them contraception either.

    Why can't they keep their legs closed, and say NO, to the bums that use sweet words and attention to use them for their bodies!

    Am I getting close to your thinking yet??
    Not even close. I actually respect women and children.
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    #113

    Apr 16, 2012, 07:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Not even close. I actually respect women and children.
    So why are you supporting guys that don't?
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    #114

    Apr 16, 2012, 07:29 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Not even close. I actually respect women and children.
    Hello again, Steve:

    But, NOT if they want to have an abortion... Then they need to be talked out of it, because OBVIOUSLY, they don't know what they're doing.. If talking them out of it didn't work, they'll have to WAIT a few days to think about it. Maybe THEN they'll make the RIGHT decision. If not, then they'll have to be SHOWN a picture of their baby, because they OBVIOUSLY don't know what's growing inside them, and need to be told by men. And if you have to stick something way up inside a women, WITHOUT her permission, to get those pictures, that's OK. It's for her own good anyway...

    Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

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    #115

    Apr 16, 2012, 08:14 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    So why are you supporting guys that don't?
    Really? I'm not the one taking a million bucks from that misogynist Bill Maher, that would be Obama.
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    #116

    Apr 16, 2012, 08:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    But, NOT if they wanna have an abortion... Then they need to be talked out of it, because OBVIOUSLY, they don't know what they're doing..
    Dude, I'm not the one lying to women about that child inside her body not being a child.
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    #117

    Apr 16, 2012, 08:27 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Dude, I'm not the one lying to women about that child inside her body not being a child.
    Hello again, Steve:

    Then you counter that by telling women the TRUTH. To do anything OTHER than that, belies your respect for women.

    Look. We STOPPED millions of people from smoking by telling them the TRUTH. We didn't enforce a waiting period before you could buy smokes. We didn't stick something down their throats to SHOW them the damage. We simply TOLD them the truth, and it worked.

    IF you respect women, like you SAY you do, that would the approach you'd take.

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    #118

    Apr 16, 2012, 08:44 AM
    I respect the life of the baby that gets snuffed.
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    #119

    Apr 16, 2012, 08:52 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I respect the life of the baby that gets snuffed.
    Hello again, tom:

    So, go DEMONSTRATE your anger at the lawmakers and/or the Supreme Court. Why punish the people who are at the EFFECT of the law? Why NOT go after the males who knocked them up? Why NOT go after the makes who APPROVED of their women going to the abortion clinic??

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    #120

    Apr 16, 2012, 09:01 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Then you counter that by telling women the TRUTH. To do anything OTHER than that, belies your respect for women[
    Um, what do you think I've been doing?

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