[excon]

And this is different from the left-wing of the Democratic party trying to rope in the blue dogs how?

Hello again, Steve:

You've been saying for quite some time now, that the country is center right.. If that's so, the Blue Dogs are to the right of center. Getting rid of them, makes the Democrats lean LEFT.

It's different than YOUR party because you ain't just leaning... You're PRONE.

excon

[NeedKarma]

And this is different from the left-wing of the Democratic party trying to rope in the blue dogs how?

Don't even know what that means. Sorry.

[talaniman]

Ah, that's too bad. Your country is going to hell in a handbasket with no voice for the moderate people.

We have a voice, just no paid lobbyists! Well high paid lobbyist!

[tomder55]

The answer to Steve's question is that the Obots have so soured their relationship with the "bitter clinger" blue dogs ,that he isn't even attempting to keep them in the coalition. They are holding onto a special interest grieviance coalition of their own by doing the classic finger pointing diversions. The blue dogs are in their cross hairs

[NeedKarma]

It doesn't really matter what theatrics your politicians do - they will do whatever their donors tell them to do.

[talaniman]

The answer to Steve's question is that the Obots have so soured their relationship with the "bitter clinger" blue dogs ,that he isn't even attempting to keep them in the coalition. They are holding onto a special interest grieviance coalition of their own by doing the classic finger pointing diversions. The blue dogs are in their cross hairs

LOL, the right does nothing but point fingers, and blame others. And what do you care about democrats and what we do with our own, as don't you have the extreme right and establishment republicans to reconcile?

[speechlesstx]

LOL, the right does nothing but point fingers, and blame others. And what do you care about democrats and what we do with our own, as don't you have the extreme right and establishment republicans to reconcile?

I didn't point fingers, I just pointed out the hypocrisy of the left criticizing Republicans for not being more "diverse."

[talaniman]

Well DUH! You aren't as diverse. Maybe that's why all the republican politicians favor giving the rich, more riches, and the poor, more poverty. I mean you said that we can no longer afford the social safety net, but in the same breathe you want corporations to have more power, and money.

Diversity brings an understanding of the needs of someone other than the ones that are like you. As it is, there is no motivation to listen to any one who doesn't agree with you. There can be no solutions without consensus right?

[excon]

Hello again:

Now, I KNOW you don't believe the following constitutes a war on women, but I'd like to know what you DO consider it.

States mandating ultrasounds just because women are availing themselves of a legal procedure. Redefining rape in an attempt to limit abortions.
Raising burden of proof for rape victims. Forced vaginal probes. Tom Corbet saying women can just close their eyes while having an ultrasound monitor shoved in their face. Women should just put an aspirin between their knees. Rush Limbaugh "sluts and prostitutes". Personhood bills which could outlaw the pill. Defunding of planned parenthood.
Bills outlawing abortions even in circumstances of rape. Republican Georgia lawmakers barring women from seeking medical intervention in removing the dead fetal tissue from a miscarriage.

Do you want to sugar coat that for me?

excon

PS> (edited) By the way, when the Romney campaign set up a conference call specifically to DEAL with his "women" problem, his campaign was asked if he supported the Lilly Ledbetter law..

The campaign, said they'll get back to the reporter.. It APPEARS that they didn't even KNOW what that law does...

Did he fix his "women" problem?? Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

[tomder55]

yeah that's right.. we wage war on women, healthcare, housing, immigrants, minorities peace, soldiers, elderly, the helpless,baby seals and smelt... oh yeah drugs. Did I miss anything ?

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[NeedKarma]

It's all true. Should be a fun election.

[speechlesstx]

Well DUH! You aren't as diverse.

Compare W's cabinet to Obama's.

Diversity brings an understanding of the needs of someone other than the ones that are like you. As it is, there is no motivation to listen to any one who doesn't agree with you. There can be no solutions without consensus right?

And let's see, you're telling this to a white guy who lives in a minority neighborhood and grew up as one of about 3-4 white kids in his class. Really??

[talaniman]

Originally Posted by tomder55
Yeah that's right.. we wage war on women, healthcare, housing, immigrants, minorities peace, soldiers, elderly, the helpless,baby seals and smelt... oh yeah drugs. Did I miss anything ?

And so it goes.. Romney ,the preferred RINO for the Dems in the primaries is about to get painted as an extremist by the OBOTS . Got this email... it's a hoot !

I get those too, and its all true.

[speechlesstx]

Hello again:

Now, I KNOW you don't believe the following constitutes a war on women, but I'd like to know what you DO consider it..

A diversion. It's absolutely pathetic to believe one can't be both pro-life and pro-woman. It's actually one of the more ridiculous ideas I've ever heard, especially coming from people who won't condemn the misogynists in their own camp and probably drive home listening to Hip Hop and other misogynist music without thinking twice about it.

[excon]

A diversion.

Hello again, Steve:

Ok, it MIGHT be.. But, a lot of women BELIEVE it. So, the way to COUNTER that belief is to hold a conference call with reporters to let the women know what Romney actually believes about women's issues. You know, to set the record straight...

And, that's what he did.. Then Sam Stein asked the "gotcha" question. Does Governor Romney support the Lilly Ledbetter Act.. The campaign didn't have an answer...

That shows, of course, just how much the Republicans really DO support women... Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

excon

[talaniman]

Oh so we are supposed to just ignore what state legislatures are doing to female rights at the hands of right wing mostly males? That's crazy, and ain't going to happen. Matter of fact, the whole right wing agenda will be called into question, starting with the war on everybody who ain't rich. I honestly think you need to get out of your neighbor hood and see how real minorities live. Outside the bubble you were raised in. Its an eyeopener, I tell you, and you would see you may be the exception, not the rule.

I get you are use to what you are use to, but geez, hip hop ain't all bad nor wrong, as you imply.

[speechlesstx]

Oh so we are supposed to just ignore what state legislatures are doing to female rights at the hands of right wing mostly males? That's crazy, and ain't going to happen. Matter of fact, the whole right wing agenda will be called into question, starting with the war on everybody who ain't rich. I honestly think you need to get out of your neighbor hood and see how real minorities live. Outside the bubble you were raised in. Its an eyeopener, I tell you, and you would see you may be the exception, not the rule.

Doing what? Protecting children? Geez, dude, loving kids is not anti-woman. I love children, I adore children, I put my freakin' money where my mouth is every month to support several children that are not my own so I could just as easily ask why you're waging a war on children.

But see, I don't believe you're anti-baby any more than I'm anti-woman and I would absolutely love to be able to take you around and ask my many female friends just how anti-woman I am. I can promise you they'll have my back, just like I have theirs.

I get you are use to what you are use to, but geez, hip hop ain't all bad nor wrong, as you imply.

Dude, I'm a musician and my tastes range from Allison Krauss to Steven Curtis Chapman to Glenn Miller to Steely Dan and ZZ Top. Much of hip hop is not really music in my opinion and quite a lot of it is extremely hostile to women. That's a fact.

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:

Ok, it MIGHT be.. But, a lot of women BELIEVE it.

And a lot of women are insulted by the condescension. Other women are speaking out now, but the media lapdogs won't give them the time of day...

New Hampshire Sen. Kelly Ayotte:

President Obama refuses to address the fact that women have been hit hardest by his failed economic policies. The poverty rate among women is the highest it has been in nearly two decades, and women have seen massive job losses during his presidency. President Obama’s proposals for higher taxes and more regulation will do nothing to bring our economy back. Women deserve a president who will ensure that they have the opportunity to prosper. Mitt Romney will create an economic environment where women, and all Americans, will be able to find lasting employment.

Former Massachusetts Lieutenant Governor Kerry Healey:

If President Obama wants to talk about a ‘war on women,’ he should start by looking at his own economic policies. It is clear that women have become the biggest casualty of the Obama economy. Women account for more than 92 percent of the jobs that have been lost on President Obama’s watch. That is simply inexcusable. We need a president who will make sure that women have the opportunity to prosper. The Obama presidency has set women’s economic security back twenty years. No amount of political spin or sideshows can hide that fact.

Washington Congresswoman Cathy McMorris Rodgers:

For more than three years, President Obama’s disastrous economic policies have wreaked havoc on women in the workplace with record levels of unemployment and the highest poverty rate in nearly two decades. Now the President has doubled down on his record of failure by proposing even more regulations and more taxes that will make it more difficult for women to find jobs. Mitt Romney supports pay equity for women and, as president, will do what President Obama has not – implement pro-growth economic policies that will allow women and all Americans to finally get back to work.

California Congresswoman Mary Bono Mack:

Barack Obama talks a good game on women in the economy, but the facts don’t back him up. Women in the Obama economy are facing hardships of historical proportions. Unemployment among women is at record levels and the number of women in poverty has risen to a near-two decade high. Everyone knows that President Obama has presided over massive job losses during his term. What they may not know is that women account for the vast majority of those lost jobs. All the Obama Administration has to offer is more of the same. Simply put, women cannot afford four more years of Barack Obama.

You actually expect a lot of smart women to believe they don't have their own best interests at heart for being conservative and that's pathetic, not to mention as anti-woman as it gets.

[excon]

Everyone knows that President Obama has presided over massive job losses during his term. What they may not know is that women account for the vast majority of those lost jobs.

Hello again, Steve:

Nahhhhh... Not really... Oh, there are those who BELIEVE the right wing schtick about it... Then there's those pay attention. All you have to do is look at a chart.. You'll SEE the "massive" job losses during the Obama administration, was a holdover from the massive job losses that were happening under the Bush administration... The looses DIDN'T turn around the day Obama was sworn in. Nope. It took a bit of effort on his part, but turn them around he DID. Since the turnaround, we've added over 4 million jobs and the rate of job growth has been consistent..

Those are the FACTS in context.

The next bit trivia I'm just guessing about... Since women make up the bulk of the teachers in this country, and since the right wing governors have FIRED teachers willy nilly, it's the right wingers who are responsible for it.

Excon

[speechlesstx]

Source please? And what about those who have given up looking for work, not to mention the gist of my post:

You actually expect a lot of smart women to believe they don't have their own best interests at heart for being conservative and that's pathetic, not to mention as anti-woman as it gets.