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Dakota2009 · Apr 9, 2012, 05:45 AM

A car dealership forged my name to obtain the title to my vehicle.

excon · Apr 9, 2012, 06:33 AM

Hello D:

That's stealing.. Call the cops.

excon

JudyKayTee · Apr 9, 2012, 06:50 AM

Originally Posted by Dakota2009

A car dealership forged my name to obtain the title to my vehicle.

Why did the dealership do this? Was the car repossessed and this wasn't a forgery, it was following a Court Order?

J_9 · Apr 9, 2012, 07:07 AM

What evidence do you have to prove that your signature was forged?

Dakota2009 · Apr 9, 2012, 07:13 AM

I bought a new vehicle from another state. I was sent the DMV application with my name signed on it and the certificate of origin for the vehicle. I'm just trying to register my vehicle in the state I am in, but I want something done to this dealership for forging my name on this application

Dakota2009 · Apr 9, 2012, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by J_9

What evidence do you have to prove that your signature was forged?

I wasn't in the state to sign a DMV application and it clearly not my signature.

excon · Apr 9, 2012, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by Dakota2009

I bought a new vehicle from another state. I was sent the DMV application with my name signed on it and the certificate of origin for the vehicle. I'm just trying to register my vehicle in the state I am in, but I want something done to this dealership for forging my name on this application

Hello D:

So, you lost NOTHING, and you're just pissed off... Did you mislead THEM, like you mislead ME?? Maybe THAT'S why they signed it.. Maybe they had trouble COMMUNICATING with you, like you have trouble COMMUNICATING with us...

I've got better things to do than deal with you.

excon

Dakota2009 · Apr 9, 2012, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello D:

So, you lost NOTHING, and you're just pissed off... Did you mislead THEM, like you mislead ME??? Maybe THAT'S why they signed it.. Maybe they had trouble COMMUNICATING with you, like you have trouble COMMUNICATING with us...

I've got better things to do than deal with you.

excon

Listen, excon. No one asked you to comment on this thread. Please, if you do not have advice, do not post anything to this thread. Whatever it is you have better to do, please go and do it.

JudyKayTee · Apr 9, 2012, 07:30 AM

Sometimes one question opens up a can of worms.

At any rate - what would you have preferred the dealership to do? Wait until the papers were mailed to you, notarized (because they wouldn't have seen you sign), returned to them, filed and returned to you? Something else?

Return the vehicle to the dealership because of the fraud and purchase another vehicle in your State of residence.

OR go to Small Claims Court where THEY do business, sue for your out-of-pocket expenses (you can only sue for monetary damages), prove your damages and proceed.

Was this a cash purchase or did you finance?

Dakota2009 · Apr 9, 2012, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by JudyKayTee

Sometimes one question opens up a can of worms.

At any rate - what would you have preferred the dealership to do? Wait until the papers were mailed to you, notarized (because they wouldn't have seen you sign), returned to them, filed and returned to you? Something else?

Return the vehicle to the dealership because of the fraud and purchase another vehicle in your State of residence.

OR go to Small Claims Court where THEY do business, sue for your out-of-pocket expenses (you can only sue for monetary damages), prove your damages and proceed.

Was this a cash purchase or did you finance?

The signature portion on the application could have been left blank. Its an DMV application so I can register my vehicle in the state I am in now. This vehicle was financed.

AK lawyer · Apr 9, 2012, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by Dakota2009

The signature portion on the application could have been left blank. Its an DMV application so I can register my vehicle in the state I am in now. This vehicle was financed.

I'm with Excon on this one.

They saved you the trouble of writing out your signature. It's a case of "no harm, no foul." Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't see how you are harmed here.

And, technically, it's not forgery if they are not attempting to make some financial gain.

Worst that can be said is that whoever wrote your name where your signature belongs shouldn't have done that. So send a nasty letter to his/her boss, suggesting that the person be admonished.

Fr_Chuck · Apr 9, 2012, 08:17 AM

Or perhaps a thank you letter, since they saved you the time and trouble of having to return to sign paper work that was forgotten for some reason. Should they have done it ? NO of course not, but they did not take the title, try to steal the car they merely helped you get the title for yourself.

I guess I don't see what the big issue is all about.

JudyKayTee · Apr 9, 2012, 08:33 AM

The answer is - "No good deed goes unpunished."

ScottGem · Apr 9, 2012, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Dakota2009

Listen, excon. No one asked you to comment on this thread. Please, if you do not have advice, do not post anything to this thread. Whatever it is you have better to do, please go and do it.

First, you don't seem to understand how this works. When you post a question here you ARE asking people to comment. You are requesting ANYONE who wants to comment to do so. Nor do you have the right to pick who can respond or not. Unless a response violates our rules (in which case you use the Report link to report it) then you have the right to comment on the response or ignore it. But you don't have the right to tell anyone to not respond.

Second, I have to agree with the others. You purchased a car and to service you and help you get the car as soon as possible the dealership signed the application for you. Instead of thanking them you want to file criminal charges against them. The police are likely to tell you the same thing if you go to them. Unless there is something you aren't telling us (and getting details from you seems difficult) I don't see any reason for your ire.

Dakota2009 · Apr 9, 2012, 10:11 AM

So you are all saying, except Miss Judy, that it is OK for someone to forge your name on a document when the document cleary states that before signing it you are certain that the information is true and accurate? No it not right. It doesn't matter what the document is for. If I use this document with this signature on it, I will be obtaining a registration for my car illegally.

excon · Apr 9, 2012, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Dakota2009

If i use this document with this signature on it, I will be obtaining a registration for my car illegally.

Hello again, Dakota:

Then I'd drive it illegally. That'll show 'em.

excon

AK lawyer · Apr 9, 2012, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Dakota2009

... If i use this document with this signature on it, I will be obtaining a registration for my car illegally.

I don't know that to be true. But if it bothers you, sign it yourself above the "forged" signature. *rolls eyes"

ScottGem · Apr 9, 2012, 12:08 PM

No its not OK to forge someone's signature, but it is OK to sign someone's name for convenience.