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tomder55 · Jan 20, 2012, 05:13 PM

I have a problem with a conservative that thinks the central government should be run in a 'grandious' manner. We already have one of those in office already.
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Yes Clintoon was a slug... but to say it was a matter of a single intern and a one off event is to deny the reality .
Before the NH primaries the Clintoons sat down with Barbara Walters (I think) and admitted that he had a history of such lurid behavior and that she Evita was perfectly OK with it so long as she could ride his coat tails .
If that wasn't an open marriage in practice I don't know what is.

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Nothing wrong with negative ads . They are as honest as the press... probably more so. Did Newt think that he could get away without his Freddie Mac and other lobbying exposed ? Did Mitt think he could get away without answering the phoney charges about Bain ?
Why won't he release his taxes?. That is a legit question that the press did not bring up until the Super Pac ads .

Athos · Jan 20, 2012, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

If that wasn't an open marriage in practice I don't know what is.

You're right. You don't know what an open marriage is.

tomder55 · Jan 20, 2012, 05:52 PM

Evidently neither does Newt. He wanted permission to cheat on his wife... just like Clintoon.

Athos · Jan 20, 2012, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by tomder55

evidently neither does Newt. He wanted permission to cheat on his wife....just like Clintoon.

You may have a point there.

talaniman · Jan 20, 2012, 09:39 PM

So much for the party of Family Values, but at this rate the dems won't have anything NEW(T) to talk about this fall.

tomder55 · Jan 21, 2012, 04:35 AM

Character still matters . Newt makes an interesting argument though about redemption.
His claim is that his past behavior was from a Newt before his Catholic conversion.

I am not one who thinks that necessarily wipes the slate clean. His past does matter ;and even if he is absolved from past adultery ,and has a solid family life today ;there are still other character issues unrelated to adultery that have yet to be answered .

Romney made the point in the last debate that if his taxes should be released ;then the details of the House ethics investigation of Newt ,that resulted in a reprimand ,should also be released .

I agree that both should be released.