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    #181

    Jan 13, 2012, 07:33 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Where I live, the Constitution TRUMPS the Senate rules.

    Excon
    UM, I believe it is the constitution that gives them the right to make their own rules.

    Section 5 - Membership, Rules, Journals, Adjournment

    Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.

    Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two-thirds, expel a Member.

    Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal.

    Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.
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    #182

    Jan 13, 2012, 08:02 AM
    Tal
    You make it sound like raising the debt ceiling is a good thing . The debt already surpassed the GDP... Is there any point where you would say we can't spend any more ?
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    #183

    Jan 13, 2012, 08:10 AM
    By the way, WaPo, certainly no friend to Republicans, gave Newt's Bain movie Four Pinocchios. It doesn't get any more dishonest than that for the WaPo Fact Checkers.
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    #184

    Jan 13, 2012, 10:02 AM
    Newt should know better .It's one thing for looney lefties in California buying into the trope that Boxer spun about Fiorina ;and I can see the President mobilizing the Occupier shock troops and plastering ads all across the nation comparing Mittens to Gordon Gecko... But shame on any Republic who uses the same tactics. If their understanding of capitalism is so wanting that they don't know the value of venture capital and private equity in business growth and our overall economy , then they can go join the Dems.
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    #185

    Jan 13, 2012, 10:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    He challenged the status quo, GOOD!! Why NOT? I would to with those bunch of morons. The idiots couldn't raise the debt ceiling, couldn't meet the super commitee dead line, and tried to hold the middle class tax cuts hostage.

    They are a do nothing congress and where faking it, I mean the fools couldn't even show up to do there jobs, like they don't have to.
    Lets see if you like it when the next president who will be a Republican does it... since if its OK for Obama, its OK for every other president to do in the future... INCLUDING Republicans.
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    Jan 13, 2012, 12:42 PM
    Smoothy, I have survived many republican presidents, governors, legistlatures and mayors, and their policies, and no doubt, GOD willing, I will survive even more, (I do live in TEXAS), NO BIG THANG, cause I do what I do no matter what they say. Republican, Democrat, Consevative, Progressive, it doesn't matter.

    I like keeping you righties jacked up because you take any view but your own as a call to the devil, and gloom, and doom. Oh woes is YOU. When the sky falls on my head then I will say ouch, but I ain't going to run in a circle looking for a reasson to cry about it. Until that happens, I thrive, and survive, and do my thing. Please bury me when I'm done.

    Need help coping with reality, be glad to, its free, just ask, as you know, I am a people person, but its factually incorrect that THIS president caused all this crap you complain about, it's been happening for more than 30 YEARS! And sorry, Ain't no saviors on the right either! Hell, Ain't none on the left! Save your own a$$, or forever hold your peace, just sayin'
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    #187

    Jan 30, 2013, 06:54 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    And you think a panel of 9 judges should be the sole arbiters ? (actually it usually comes down to one judges decision)
    If you think that then your freedom slipped away long before now.


    I think Supreme Court Justices should not be affiliated to any party . That way there is no agenda to muddle up decisions. We are founding Fathers divided so greatly by partisan politics?? No and look what they created.
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    #188

    Jan 30, 2013, 07:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    tal
    you make it sound like raising the debt ceiling is a good thing . The debt already surpassed the GDP ... Is there any point where you would say we can't spend any more ?
    Tom when you say the debt exceeds the GDP is that because GDP has fallen, or has not kept pace with the growth needed to ensure a strong economy. The two things are not connected other than an indication used by rating agencies of the nation's ability to pay its debts. The question of whether you spend more is what your politicians are there for, to make reasoned decisions, to balance the budget, or find ways of reducing debt. That they seem incapable of this is unfortunate

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