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tomder55 · Nov 15, 2011, 06:36 AM

Nobody said anything about taking someone's money.

That's exactly what you are talking about.

We changed the world once. We're about to do it again.

The French thought they were changing the world with mob~ocracy in 1789 . They ended up with a military dictator by 1804.

talaniman · Nov 15, 2011, 06:57 AM

LOL, taking a few million from a billionare is wrong, but taking food stamps from someone with nothing is right.

Go figure the logic in that one.

tomder55 · Nov 15, 2011, 06:58 AM

Who said I approved of taking food stamps from the people who truly need them ?

excon · Nov 15, 2011, 07:02 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

The French thought they were changing the world with mob~ocracy in 1789 . They ended up with a military dictator by 1804.

Hello again, tom:

It's a dangerous time. The OWS'rs didn't bring it. They just noticed it, and it pissed them off. Can we keep our democracy? Time will tell.

excon

smoothy · Nov 15, 2011, 07:05 AM

Originally Posted by talaniman

What country are you talking about? Nobody said anything about taking someones money. After the rich pay their fair share, they still are really, really rich. and most middle class workers don't have servants, or big houses. You have been reading to many tourist magazines or something, and we have far more options than your island nation, if the conservatives could count, and get there noses out the butts of the super rich, and deal with the facts and not the fiction of there own rhetoric.

Gee the rich pay the lions share now... while 47% pay nothing... want to talk about someone paying their fair share... the 47% are way overdue to step up and do thair part for once.

excon · Nov 15, 2011, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by smoothy

Gee the rich pay the lions share now...while 47% pay nothing....

Hello again, smoothy:

You make yourself irrelevant when you continue to spread stuff, that you KNOW not to be true.. But, you represent YOUR side very well. FACTS mean NOTHING to you...

Carry on. Standing by to call you again...

excon

talaniman · Nov 15, 2011, 07:12 AM

That's a blatant misrepresentation. 47% pay taxes, and get refunds, but they pay taxes. Not as much as Warren Buffet, or the banks, and making money is an individual thing. Why don't the rich guys who suck all the money out of the economy for fun step up and fix some bridges?

Oh that's right, a poor joker making slave wages should be doing that while the fat cats count the money the stole.

speechlesstx · Nov 15, 2011, 07:54 AM

What exactly is a "slave wage"?

And I asked that question yesterday, why don't all those "patriotic millionaires" and billionaires put their money where their mouth is? Who has been the first to step up and toss in a few billion to fix a few bridges instead of running their mouth about paying less in taxes than his secretary? No one is stopping them, and again here's the address for them to demonstrate their patriotism whenever they're ready to cut a check.

Department of the Treasury
1500 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20220

excon · Nov 15, 2011, 08:05 AM

Hello Steve:

I don't know... Why are you running turnips for president?

As long as you keep spreading right wing gospel, I'll answer with left wing stuff... And, the band played on.

excon

tomder55 · Nov 15, 2011, 08:08 AM

I wonder what Buffett would say if he was threatened with Cap gains tax increases instead of income tax increases ?
Not that I'm in favor of that . I think cap gains should be tax exempt.It's double taxation and hurts the middle class more than the rich so everyone should favor it's elimination.

speechlesstx · Nov 15, 2011, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by excon

The people have been aroused...

Who has been aroused? Most of the people are long past fed up with the occupiers, and once they block traffic again and otherwise disrupt people's lives on their little march it's only going to get worse for them.

We changed the world once. We're about to do it again.

Change to what? I'm still waiting for them to clarify their "one demand." For the most part these are college kids who think they're entitled to whatever it is they think they're entitled to and whatever it is must be the right thing simply because they feel so passionate about it. Whaaa!

speechlesstx · Nov 15, 2011, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by excon

I don't know... Why are you running turnips for president?

I'm not running any of them, but Gingrich is no turnip.

As long as you keep spreading right wing gospel, I'll answer with left wing stuff... And, the band played on.

What right-wing gospel? Telling hypocrite billionaires to put their money where their mouth is should have bipartisan support.

tomder55 · Nov 15, 2011, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Who has been aroused? Most of the people are long past fed up with the occupiers, and once they block traffic again and otherwise disrupt people's lives on their little march it's only going to get worse for them.

Change to what? I'm still waiting for them to clarify their "one demand." For the most part these are college kids who think they're entitled to whatever it is they think they're entitled to and whatever it is must be the right thing simply because they feel so passionate about it. Whaaa!

Afterburner with Bill Whittle: Three and a Half Days - YouTube

excon · Nov 15, 2011, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by speechlesstx

What right-wing gospel? Telling hypocrite billionaires to put their money where their mouth is should have bipartisan support.

Hello again, Steve:

You're not just calling THEM hypocrites. You're calling me one also. I, TOO, would be willing to pay more taxes if it contributed to the recovery of my country... But, I'm not going to write a check, until it becomes law, and I'm not hypocrite because I won't. In fact, to call me that, because I support my country, is kind of low.

In truth, my WILLINGNESS to support my country, shows my patriotism. Your attack on it shows ______ (fill in the blank).

excon

excon · Nov 15, 2011, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by tomder55

Afterburner with Bill Whittle: Three and a Half Days - YouTube

Hello tom:

I didn't listen past the name calling - just like I don't listen to you when you call names.. I LOVED the graphics, though.

excon

speechlesstx · Nov 15, 2011, 08:57 AM

No, I'm not calling you a hypocrite. I don't put a willingness to pay more if asked to do so in the same category as complaining that you don't pay enough in taxes when you can send in as much as you want. Buffet and Soros don't really want to pay more in taxes or they would already be doing so.

smoothy · Nov 15, 2011, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

You make yourself irrelevant when you continue to spread stuff, that you KNOW not to be true.. But, you represent YOUR side very well. FACTS mean NOTHING to you...

Carry on. Standing by to call you again...

excon

Really ex... exactly where are you getting YOUR information from.

The top 10 percent of tax payers... your so-called rich pay 71% of the entire federal taxes... and you and Tal for two are arguing that's still not enough... when 47% pay ZERO% of the Federal taxes...

The Top 10 Percent of Income Earners Paid 71 Percent of Federal Income Tax

excon · Nov 15, 2011, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by smoothy

when 47% pay ZERO% of the Federal taxes...

Hello again, smoothy:

For the 15th, and most likely NOT the last time, the group who you say pays NO federal taxes, PAY federal unemployment taxes, they pay federal social security taxes, they pay federal payroll taxes, they pay federal FICA taxes, they pay federal highway taxes, they pay federal excise taxes, they pay federal telephone taxes, and there's probably another 15 federal taxes that they pay that I'm not aware of...

The BULK of the federal budget comes from THOSE taxes and not income taxes... But, I've said this before. You'll ignore me this time, just like you have all the rest... I'm used to it. That's my job - setting the record straight...

excon

smoothy · Nov 15, 2011, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

For the 15th, and most likely NOT the last time, the group who you say pays NO federal taxes, PAY federal unemployment taxes, they pay federal social security taxes, they pay federal payroll taxes, they pay federal FICA taxes, they pay federal highway taxes, they pay federal excise taxes, they pay federal telephone taxes, and there's probably another 15 federal taxes that they pay that I'm not aware of...

The BULK of the federal budget comes from THOSE taxes and not income taxes... But, I've said this before. You'll ignore me this time, just like you have all the rest... I'm used to it. That's my job - setting the record straight...

excon

If you believe that... then why are you harping on a group that already pays far more than its fair share... How about making that 47% pull its weight for a change... if its such an insignificant amount,

smoothy · Nov 15, 2011, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, smoothy:

For the 15th, and most likely NOT the last time, the group who you say pays NO federal taxes, PAY federal unemployment taxes, they pay federal social security taxes, they pay federal payroll taxes, they pay federal FICA taxes, they pay federal highway taxes, they pay federal excise taxes, they pay federal telephone taxes, and there's probably another 15 federal taxes that they pay that I'm not aware of...

The BULK of the federal budget comes from THOSE taxes and not income taxes... But, I've said this before. You'll ignore me this time, just like you have all the rest... I'm used to it. That's my job - setting the record straight...

excon

If you believe that... then why are you harping on a group that already pays far more than its fair share... How about making that 47% pull its weight for a change... if its such an insignificant amount,

THe left seems to believe raising the taxes of that 10% to total confication will somehow CURE everything... strange if its such an insignifcant amount how that will do anything except further increase the unemployment rates.