[darnell.duree]

Running arc-fault circuit from dinning room to kitchen counter top into line of GFI outlet.

[ballengerb1]

Arc faults were not required in a dinning room until very recdent, is this new construction? What is your exact question?

[tkrussell]

Allow me to post this one more time regarding what needs to be Arc Fault protected since the 2008 edition of the National Electric Code was adopted:

210.12 Arc-Fault Circuit-Interrupter Protection.

(B) Dwelling Units. All 120-volt, single phase, 15- and 20-ampere branch circuits supplying outlets installed in dwelling unit family rooms, dining rooms, living rooms, parlors, libraries, dens, bedrooms, sunrooms, recreation rooms, closets, hallways, or similar rooms or areas shall be protected by a listed arc-fault circuit interrupter, combination-type, installed to provide protection of the branch circuit.

darnell.duree, what is your question?


Kitchen counter outlets do not need AFCI protection.

They do require GFI protection.

And, kitchen counter outlets shall be dedicated for the counter or kitchen only.

(3) Kitchen Receptacle Requirements.
Receptacles installed in a kitchen to serve countertop surfaces shall be supplied by not fewer than two small-appliance branch circuits, either or both of which shall also be permitted to supply receptacle outlets in the same kitchen and in other rooms specified in 210.52(B)(1). Additional smallappliance branch circuits shall be permitted to supply receptacle outlets in the kitchen and other rooms specified in 210.52(B)(1). No small-appliance branch circuit shall serve
More than one kitchen.

Dining rooms need to be 20 amp rated, but cannot be connected to the kitchen counter circuits.

[darnell.duree]

I know that it is not required for arc-fault circuit in the kitchen but the nec code is the minimum requirements. Can you run the arc-fault circuit to the kitchen counter top gfic outlet?

[darnell.duree]

The kitchen is a remodel

[ballengerb1]

TK covers it. Kitchen should be its own two branch circuit. It should not be tapped into an existing branch from another room.

[darnell.duree]

The circuit that i ran to kitchen is a dedicated circuit that i ran to pantry,two outlets in dinning room ( that is also being remodeled), to two counter top outlets.there are also one more dedicated counter top circuit and a dedicated circuit for microwave and refer.

[ma0641]

I'm sorry, but how many times are you going to ask the same question? The answer you rec'd by TK Russell is complete and accurate. Please do not post the same question and expect a different answer.

[tkrussell]

You may protect a kitchen outlet with an AFCI and a GFI, if you desire, however, you cannot have the dining room on the same circuit with the kitchen counter.

[stanfortyman]

.. however, you cannot have the dining room on the same circuit with the kitchen counter.

I hate to do this, but it does happen from time to time. I have to say I disagree here.
To meet the absolute code minimum you can have just two SABC (small appliance branch circuits) for ALL the areas mentioned (including the refer). Not only is there no prohibition of having the DR on with the counter circuits, it is expressly allowed.

Receptacles installed in a kitchen to serve countertop surfaces shall be supplied by not fewer than two small-appliance branch circuits, either or both of which shall also be permitted to supply receptacle outlets in the same kitchen and in other rooms specified in 210.52(B)(1).

The next sentence "Additional smallappliance branch circuits shall be permitted...." is just saying that any other SABC's are also confined to these areas and cannot serve other areas.

[jerro]

You cannot connect a afci breaker circuit to a gfci outlet. It will trip the afci protection when you turn on the circuit.

[stanfortyman]

You cannot connect a afci breaker circuit to a gfci outlet. It will trip the afci protection when you turn on the circuit.

Do you have any substantiation to back this up?