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    #121

    Oct 5, 2011, 03:11 AM
    I'll give the President some kudos for FINALLY sending the trade bills with Panama, South Korea and Colombia,that collected dust on his desk for way too long, to Congress .

    Obama promised that the trade deals would spawn much needed jobs at home..
    “These agreements will support tens of thousands of jobs across the country for workers making products stamped with three proud words: 'Made in America,'"
    Duhh you think ?
    Why didn't he send them to Congress back in 2009 then ? Don't bother answering.. It's obvious.. He didn't because of his own obstructionist party controlled Congress .

    Speaker Bonehead will have the bill on the House floor by next week.

    This will expose divisions within the Democrats between those who see the benefit of the job creating in their own states against those who would let their far lefty tendencies prevent a trade agreement with Colombia .

    The Senate voted 79-19 to advance legislation that would crack down on China's currency. Minority leader McConnell tried to add the President's job bill to this legislation and Majority leader Reid again took the opportunity to obstruct the President's agenda.

    BTW... the Europeans are the canaries in the coal mine.. Their failed system is the model for the American Democrats . Word.

    And... Reagan cut the top rate to 28% AND eliminated loopholes, making the tax system flatter, fairer and better, helping the economy. Obama doesn't understand because he focuses on his leftist redistributionist ideology.
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    Oct 5, 2011, 10:32 AM
    Update... Reid realizes he blundered and that McConnell exposed him..
    So today he announced that the Dems in the Senate will release his own version of a jobs bill... a surtax on the wealthy... which probably is unconstitutional under the bill of attainer provision of the US Constitution(article 1 sec 9 paragraph 3).
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    Oct 5, 2011, 10:44 AM
    Not surprised... the last few years have shown Reid, Obama and Pelosi have considered the Constitution as an obstruction to their plans to impose Socialism.
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    Oct 5, 2011, 11:36 AM
    Your assertions that the country was doing just great until the Dem's hit town is short sited, and incorrect because we are seeing decades of band aids coming off, and exposing the true extent of the wounds that needed attention.

    Things that should have been attended to long ago are coming to light, and it's a lot more than the present governments gridlock that's at the heart of what's going on. The guys you like have done as much dirt as they guys you don't like, but who do you accuse of doing the dirt? The guys you don't like.
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    Oct 5, 2011, 11:44 AM
    Tal I have not been shy at taking the Repubics to task . I have said that their problem is that they think they can be better stewards and managers of the nanny state. You are correct ,the system is flawed at the premise . The premise is that government can take care of your every want and need.
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    #126

    Oct 5, 2011, 11:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Your assertions that the country was doing just great until the Dem's hit town is short sited, and incorrect because we are seeing decades of band aids coming off, and exposing the true extent of the wounds that needed attention.

    Things that should have been attended to long ago are coming to light, and its a lot more than the present governments gridlock thats at the heart of whats going on. The guys you like have done as much dirt as they guys you don't like, but who do you accuse of doing the dirt? The guys you don't like.
    Gee... thats the new liberal excuse for Obamas disasters... well it doesn't work. Nobody believes it any more than most people no longer believe a thing Obama says.

    The Economy was doing a lot better before Obama came to town and the lefties gave him everything he asked for for two years.

    Now they are trying to weasle out of taking responsibility for the mess they created of the economy and the incredible increases on unemployment numbers... even the REPORTED unemployment numbers are far higher than they were under Bush... the National DEBT is far higher than under Bush... and the REAL unemployment number they avoid like the plague... is even far higher.

    Face it... this is what the Dems wanted... time for them to "MAN UP" and accept their responsibility in it all.

    I'd rather have the worst economy I saw under Bush... than the best I have seen under Obama, and so would most of the USA.
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    #127

    Oct 5, 2011, 12:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    tal I have not been shy at taking the Repubics to task . I have said that their problem is that they think they can be better stewards and managers of the nanny state. You are correct ,the system is flawed at the premise . The premise is that government can take care of your every want and need.
    I will be honest Tom in saying that we the people have not made OUR needs, and wants more apparent when it comes to our government, and so it was bought behind our backs by other interests.

    I am for effective government working in my behalf. I should have 536 people working for me. And the whole freakin' state of Texas should be taking care of MY interests. All of them, or they all should be fired and replaced.

    That's not asking too much I don't think.
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    #128

    Oct 5, 2011, 04:01 PM
    Originally Posted by tomder55
    Palin still looms and I think she'd be a fine President.

    Oh dear.
    She made her decision. She will not run. The left has temporarily succeeded in eliminating her from the scene with vile attacks on her and her family .
    But don't gloat too much .She will not fade from the public scene and will have a say in this election.
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    #129

    Oct 5, 2011, 04:04 PM
    Ahhhhhhhh!! Double whammy! Marco Rubio has dropped out of consideration for VP...
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    Oct 5, 2011, 04:24 PM
    Having a bad day Tom? Don't worry Eric Cantor is looking into the VP slot.
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    #131

    Oct 6, 2011, 04:52 AM
    Ron Paul would be a huge improvement over anyone the Democrats are fielding... and I'm no Ron Paul follower.
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    Oct 6, 2011, 05:55 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Having a bad day Tom? Don't worry Eric Cantor is looking into the VP slot.
    I'm counting on Cantor to become majority leader.
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    Oct 6, 2011, 08:04 AM
    I knew that would raise your spirits. :D :)

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