[talaniman]

I have no need to go any further with your response because you veered into nonsense so early. I'm not forcing anyone to make the choices I was denied. I just said give the child a chance, I'm asking, not forcing.

Closing planned parent hood is asking?? Taking away the funding is asking? Obstructing their choice is asking?? Shaming them is asking??

Looks like forcing to me!!

[speechlesstx]

Closing planned parent hood is asking??? Taking away the funding is asking?? Obstructing their choice is asking??? Shaming them is asking???

I did none of those things. But, Planned Parenthood is the most vile organization in America in my opinion and I damn sure don't want one cent of my money going to help them. Giving the patient information isn't obstruction or shame, it's how we make an informed choice.

[talaniman]

QUOTE by speechlesstx;
I did none of those things.

But you support those that do, you said so.

But, Planned Parenthood is the most vile organization in America in my opinion and I damn sure don't want one cent of my money going to help them.

So you are against contraceptives, breast cancer screenings, pelvic cancer exams, and regular check ups. That makes you against healthy females, most who can't afford insurance, and have to turn to title 10 resources. Wonder what your alternative would be?

Giving the patient information isn't obstruction or shame, it's how we make an informed choice.

Unwanted advice, and taking away choices is force, especially if you don't know what goes on before an abortion is even considered.

Your opinion is all about strong feelings but have no facts to back them up, at least you have presented... NONE! That's why its no surprise that you support willy nilly cuts, because you don't care who they affect, or how they affect them.

[speechlesstx]

But you support those that do, you said so.

I've never said a thing about closing PP and as far as I know there is no organized effort to do so, so enough of the asinine assumptions.

So you are against contraceptives, breast cancer screenings, pelvic cancer exams, and regular check ups. That makes you against healthy females, most who can't afford insurance, and have to turn to title 10 resources. Wonder what your alternative would be?

Again with the asinine assumptions. What is it with you guys on the left that feel it necessary to distort, misrepresent and speak on my behalf. Enough, you speak for yourself and I'll d the same.

Unwanted advice, and taking away choices is force, especially if you don't know what goes on before an abortion is even considered.

It's information, not advice. Surely you know the difference.

Your opinion is all about strong feelings but have no facts to back them up, at least you have presented... NONE! That's why its no surprise that you support willy nilly cuts, because you don't care who they affect, or how they affect them.

And your response is pure fantasy. Stop making sh*t up abut me, tal. I can't put it any plainer than that.

[talaniman]

Wonder what your alternative would be?

What would you tell a female to do who can't afford insurance, or regular doctor visits?

[speechlesstx]

Wonder what your alternative would be?

What would you tell a female to do who can't afford insurance, or regular doctor visits?

In Amarillo we have a community clinic where those in need can get regular health care, dental, vision, prescriptions, you name it. We have 2 hospitals that will provide care for anyone that walks in the door. I have ALWAYS believed in a safety net for the needy, I've made that clear here many times in spite of the repeated efforts by others to say otherwise. Health care for the needy is one thing, abortion on demand is an entirely different ball of wax.

[Wondergirl]

In Amarillo we have a community clinic where those in need can get regular health care, dental, vision, prescriptions, you name it. We have 2 hospitals that will provide care for anyone that walks in the door. I have ALWAYS believed in a safety net for the needy, I've made that clear here many times in spite of the repeated efforts by others to say otherwise. Health care for the needy is one thing, abortion on demand is an entirely different ball of wax.

Who pays for all that?

[talaniman]

Who pays for all that?

The costs of the benefits of this plan are paid by Northwest Texas Healthcare System (NWTHS), from revenues generated from other patients and from annual receipt of funds from the Amarillo Hospital District. The benefits are determined in accordance to the guidelines established by the Board of Managers of the Amarillo Hospital District. NWTHS has developed the Wyatt Health Plan through which these services are provided.

Allowance: The dollar amount of income which may be retained before any funds are considered available for medical expenses.

b) In order for medical expenses to be paid, the value of personal property and equity in property or real estate must total $5000 or less. Furnishings in a household, household articles, clothing and tools are excluded from the calculation of equity.
c) The Member is unable to borrow sufficient funds to pay medical and/or hospital bills in whole or in part.
d) Persons whose income and/or equity exceed the base will be requested to partially pay for each visit for any inpatient or outpatient service. Table of Partial Payment will be between 100% and 150% of the Federal Poverty Guidelines.

Even though Texas is the leading state for the uninsured, they do have all sorts of insurance plans, and options. Most of the poor opt for medicaid, which is offered by the state, and funded by state and federal funds. Just like planned parenthood.

http://www.health.state.nm.us/phd/fp/title_x.htm

Who receives services through Title X?
83% of Title X clients had incomes below 150 percent of the federal poverty level in 1997
The vast majority of Title X clients are uninsured and do not qualify for Medicaid
Title X clinics provide services free of charge to clients whose incomes do not exceed 100 percent of the federal poverty level and services are offered on a sliding fee scale for clients with incomes up to 250 percent of the federal poverty level.

[tomder55]

What would you tell a female to do who can't afford insurance, or regular doctor visits?

I'd say use abstainance .That doesn't cost her or me anything.. It's the best of both worlds . And if she does anyway then why do I have to support infanticide for her mistakes ?

[NeedKarma]

The costs of the benefits of this plan are paid by Northwest Texas Healthcare System (NWTHS), from revenues generated from other patients

"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. "

[speechlesstx]

Who pays for all that?

What's your point?

[Wondergirl]

I'd say use abstainance .That doesn't cost her or me anything..It's the best of both worlds . And if she does anyway then why do I have to support infanticide for her mistakes ?

Reminds me of Hestor Prynne.

What about the males in her life?

[Wondergirl]

Who pays for all of that?

What's your point?

Oh, I thought you knew. Sorry.

[talaniman]

I've never said a thing about closing PP and as far as I know there is no organized effort to do so, so enough of the asinine assumptions.

Rev. Tom Davis: Blessing (Not Cursing) Planned Parenthood

House votes to defund Planned Parenthood - David Nather and Kate Nocera - POLITICO.com

[tomder55]

Reminds me of Hestor Prynne.

What about the males in her life?
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I enjoy literary reference. What about the men ? By all means necessary they should be compelled to act like a man and assume responsibility for their actions. My advice to them is the same . No play no pay.
I'm certainly not branding a scarlet letter . This is practical advice . Much like eliminating moral risk by subsidizing the risk creates wrecklesness in business ;the same is true for individuals.

[Wondergirl]

I enjoy literary reference. What about the men ? By all means necessary they should be compelled to act like a man and assume responsibility for their actions. My advice to them is the same . No play no pay.
I'm certainly not branding a scarlet letter . This is practical advice . Much like eliminating moral risk by subsidizing the risk creates wrecklesness in business ;the same is true for individuals.

Good. Abstinence for the males too.

[excon]

Hello again:

Once upon a time, there was this nice little economy wandering about.. Oh, it wasn't healthy, and needed some work, but it was doing OK.

Then a rowdy crowd of Tea Partiers mugged it. They threw it to the ground and stomped on it. But, our economy got up, shook its head, and started wandering around some more...

This time, however, the assault left the economy bleeding and hurt. So, the ref's (S & P) gave it a standing 8 count (lowered its credit rating), and the muggers (Tea Party) blamed the victim...

I think I'll up my dose of pot so I can be on THEIR plane.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Oh, I thought you knew. Sorry.

I would ordinarily have a comment but the moderators here now apparently speak for me.

[Wondergirl]

I would ordinarily have a comment but the moderators here now apparently speak for me.

Paranoia doesn't become you.

[speechlesstx]

Paranoia doesn't become you.

Paranoia? No. Just making a point.