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    Jul 18, 2011, 10:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    because you still believe in a monarchy telling you what the law is. Once you finally give in and accept that a republic is your future you will see the importance.
    That is a complete misnoma Tom monarchy plays no role in our system since it has no real power excepting to sack a government. Such power as there is is held by a representative of monarchy appointed by the government. The executive branch is the Governor-General and Prime Minister operating in the Executive Council so the Governor-General takes the advice of the Prime MinisterOnly once has this been challenged. That was in 1975

    The laws of Australia are decided by its Parliament and given assent by the Executive Council. The final authority on the legality and constitutionality of those laws is the High Court of Australia. It is unlikely that an Australian republic would be formed on any materially different structure and attempts to form a republic based on direct election of a president have already failed. The republic issue is unlikely to be canvassed again in the reign of Elizabeth II. To do anything requires amendment to the Constitution and that has proved extremely difficult to do. In any case Tom what is your President other than an elected monarch?

    The reality is, Tom, that our democracy is far more representative than your own, with the Executive Branch, represented by the Prime Minister, facing questions in the House on every sitting day. There are no staples to bills, there might be deals but it will be in separate legislation which must itself face the House, or it waits for the budget process
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    Jul 19, 2011, 04:20 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    That is a complete misnoma Tom monarchy plays no role in our system since it has no real power excepting to sack a government. Such power as there is is held by a representative of monarchy appointed by the government. The executive branch is the Governor-General and Prime Minister operating in the Executive Council so the Governor-General takes the advice of the Prime MinisterOnly once has this been challenged. That was in 1975

    The laws of Australia are decided by its Parliament and given assent by the Executive Council. The final authority on the legality and constitutionality of those laws is the High Court of Australia. It is unlikely that an Australian republic would be formed on any materially different structure and attempts to form a republic based on direct election of a president have already failed. The republic issue is unlikely to be canvassed again in the reign of Elizabeth II. To do anything requires amendment to the Constitution and that has proved extemely difficult to do. in any case Tom what is your President other than an elected monarch?

    The reality is, Tom, that our democracy is far more representative than your own, with the Executive Branch, represented by the Prime Minister, facing questions in the House on every sitting day. There are no staples to bills, there might be deals but it will be in seperate legislation which must itself face the House, or it waits for the budget process

    Exactly correct.

    Unlike America we did not need to come up with a political system that attempts to pull itself up by its own boot straps. The monarchy has no power in Australia. Our system of government is based on a long successful tradition (Westminster system).

    We don't have to worry about any "Imperial Judiciary"


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    Jul 19, 2011, 05:51 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by TUT317 View Post
    We don't have to worry about any "Imperial Judiciary"


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    Wrong thread Tut that is another question entirely but I agree thus far our judiciary excepting for a certain well know justice hasn't attempted to rewrite the Constitution

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