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    #121

    Jun 13, 2011, 11:56 AM

    I made the point in another posting today that Sec Gates should've resigned rather than compromise his position on something vital .

    There is nothing wrong with resigning for a good reason . Palin had a good reason. State resourses were being wasted on frivoulous ethics complaints against her. State resources were being wasted in the pursuit by activitist in filing these charges.She became in essence a victim of the law she championed and the people who would abuse the law for a cheap political witch hunt..

    The fact she resigned is completely irrelevant to the op . The emails show that while she was Governor she was competent .The proof that the charges were frivoulous is in the fact that none of them went anywhere . Again ;her emails are proving beyond a doubt she ran a clean and ethical office in her tenure.
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    #122

    Jun 13, 2011, 12:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The emails show that while she was Governor she was competent .The proof that the charges were frivoulous is in the fact that none of them went anywhere . Again ;her emails are proving beyond a doubt she ran a clean and ethical office in her tenure.
    Nope, she did state business using a Yahoo email address to hide whatever it is she had to hide.
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    Jun 13, 2011, 12:29 PM

    Why should she cost Alaska a bunch of money and go through the political agravations of frivilous ethics charges, when she could just quit, and make bookoo bucks.

    She may have a fire in her belly, but not when it comes to fighting for what she believes. That's why she only goes to friendly places, makes money, and won't run for president. Its easier throwing rocks, than dodging them.

    I made the point in another posting today that Sec Gates should've resigned rather than compromise his position on something vital .
    He served his country, and we are grateful for his service, Don't compare what Sarah does to what Gates has done, they are not equal in any way.

    Just saying.
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    #124

    Jun 13, 2011, 01:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    But she invites and enjoys the obsessive coverage.
    I said nothing about her enjoying it, I responded to the charge of treating her as a messiah, which I don't and never have. I did however, point out who really is obsessed with her and that is the media and her detractors.

    This thread is just another example. She's been vindicated about the OP but that hasn't stopped people from trashing her anyway.
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    #125

    Jun 13, 2011, 01:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    that hasn't stopped people from trashing her anyway.
    I guess some people don't like her. Politics is a popularity contest after all. Look at the threads in Current Events over the last two years - Obama bashing trumps all other subjects.
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    #126

    Jun 13, 2011, 04:09 PM

    Don't compare what Sarah does to what Gates has done, they are not equal in any way.
    Why not ? Gates not standing up for his convictions may have cost US lives. Perhaps resignation would've been the honorable thing to do if he had fundamental disagreements with the policies .
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    #127

    Jun 13, 2011, 04:30 PM
    I have good news for you we had a back woods red head here with political pretensions, had quite a following too, but they tend to run out of steam after a while and the odd scandal, so be of good cheer it will all be over soon
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    #128

    Jun 13, 2011, 04:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    TUT you aren't the only one who responded . That she doesn't speak eligantly ;she's guilty as charged . It is a meaningless assertion that has nothing to do with intelligence.
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    Hi Tom,

    I think there is an important difference between a person speaking elegantly and someone speaking coherently.


    Her original quote is non compos mentis. The way the sentence is constructed it is difficult to understand how anyone can say the quote is historically accurate. In fact, there is a good argument for saying the quote says absolutely nothing. In other words, it is just a jumble of words.

    Tut
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    #129

    Jun 13, 2011, 08:56 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by TUT317 View Post
    Hi Tom,

    I think there is an important difference between a person speaking elegantly and someone speaking coherently.


    Her original quote is non compos mentis. The way the sentence is constructed it is difficult to understand how anyone can say the quote is historically accurate. In fact, there is a good argument for saying the quote says absolutely nothing. In other words, it is just a jumble of words.

    Tut
    So Tut if I read you right you are saying it was lost in translation, must be that Twang that does it
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    #130

    Jun 13, 2011, 09:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Why not ? Gates not standing up for his convictions may have cost US lives. Perhaps resignation would've been the honorable thing to do if he had fundamental disagreements with the policies .
    The fact he didn't resign, but stayed speaks volumes on his convictions.
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    #131

    Jun 14, 2011, 02:10 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    So Tut if I read you right you are saying it was lost in translation, must be that Twang that does it

    Hi Clete,


    Could be.

    I am not sure how people can interpret Palin in terms of historical accuracy. I am somewhat surprised the majority seem to regard this side of the debate as a dead issue. I think the OP was right the first time.

    Palin is confused about history. This doesn't men she lacks intelligence. Most people are confused about history.

    Tut
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    #132

    Jun 14, 2011, 04:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by TUT317 View Post

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    Palin is confused about history. This doesn't men she lacks intelligence. Most people are confused about history.

    Tut
    Yes, Tut, tend to agree with you here. I for one like her, but I am Canadian so don't have to put with your presidency issue should she run. Although her lack of historical knowledge is a little bothering to me, being on the other side, if she becomes president.


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    #133

    Jun 14, 2011, 04:50 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    Although her lack of historical knowledge is a little bothering to me,
    Hello tick:

    The problem with her LACK of a historical foundation, is "Those who cannot remember the past (or never knew it in the first place) are condemned to repeat it".

    That was true when George Santayana, wrote those words, and it's true now.

    excon
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    #134

    Jun 14, 2011, 05:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tickle View Post
    yes, Tut, tend to agree with you here. I for one like her, but I am Canadian so dont have to put with your presidency issue should she run. Although her lack of historical knowledge is a little bothering to me, being on the other side, if she becomes president.


    tick

    Hi Tickle,

    Actually, I don't have to spend my time voting for anyone and everyone. Like you I live under the Westminster system of government.

    Tut
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    #135

    Jun 14, 2011, 06:28 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello tick:

    The problem with her LACK of a historical foundation, is "Those who cannot remember the past (or never knew it in the first place) are condemned to repeat it".

    That was true when George Santayana, wrote those words, and it's true now.

    excon
    So you are saying Ex that Palin is destined to ride to warn the British, will that be on a honkin great harley?
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    #136

    Jun 14, 2011, 10:50 AM

    What ex is trying to say is the same thing the media is now saying out loud, conservatives are just stupid "wingnuts."

    Wingnut debt ceiling demands



    Could someone tell CNN that Gingrich and Palin won't be voting on the debt ceiling? If Fox had printed a similar headline, the source monitors here would be having a fit over their bias and how they aren't really a news organization.
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    #137

    Jun 14, 2011, 10:59 AM
    LOL, CNN using "Wingnut". Brutal.
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    #138

    Jun 14, 2011, 09:38 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    LOL, CNN using "Wingnut". Brutal.
    Yes her ears don't stick out
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    Jun 18, 2011, 10:52 AM
    I sure hope Mitt Romney gets the GOP nomination, he seems to be the most intelligent and least wacky and controversial than anyone else.
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    Jun 19, 2011, 12:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by earl237 View Post
    I sure hope Mitt Romney gets the GOP nomination, he seems to be the most intelligent and least wacky and controversial than anyone else.
    It would swiftly bring Mormomism into perspective, going from one minority to another

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