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    #81

    May 6, 2011, 12:52 PM

    You know what, I REJOICED when Bellatrix Lestrange and Voldemort were killed in Harry Potter 7.

    I guess I am a little immoral.
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    #82

    May 6, 2011, 12:58 PM

    That is very true...
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    #83

    May 6, 2011, 12:58 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by southamerica View Post
    You know what, I REJOICED when Bellatrix Lestrange and Voldemort were killed in Harry Potter 7.

    I guess I am a little immoral.
    Thanks for ruining it for me!
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    May 6, 2011, 01:08 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ITstudent2006 View Post
    Thanks for ruining it for me!
    Oh no!

    I'm so sorry... blonde moment where I forgot some people only watch the movies.

    Forget I said it, it doesn't actually happen.

    It's Sauron that dies. And Darth Vader.
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    #85

    May 6, 2011, 01:09 PM

    I was kidding. I don't watch that stuff and I can't read so books are a no-go.

    I could have been serious (or acted like it) and made you feel bad...
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    #86

    May 6, 2011, 01:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    You want him to have been flying one of the planes? Isn't architect good enough?

    Who's responsible for the house you live in? the architect? the general contractor? the construction crew? the roofers? the plumbers? the electricians?

    Who originally designed it and plotted it out? all of those?
    YOU have no authority to determine he is any of the above! Architect is NOT good enough, you need to establish that he is the architect, or the plumber, or the realtor, or builder before you exact your punishment on him!

    Are you really that unfamiliar with how crime organizations (and some 'legitamate' ones) operate? Sheesh, you seem to take everything you hear as fact and then comment on what the appropriate punishment should be. When, in fact, you do not seem to subscibe to the judicial process nor the route in which one should navigate through that process.

    I don't even know what your saying anymore? OBL was the head, according to you. You shot him and he is now dead. What, praytell, are the other punishments bestowed on the other participants? The conspirators, the aides, the other top dogs, the backers behind billions in support money, the Pakistani officials? Bullet in the face? Trial?

    I ask because one could easily argue the others had the same if not more involvement than OBL in the attacks so, according to the WONDERful judicial process you've now created, how are you to deal with them if you catch them? Question them, determine their role and... oh wait... you don't do that, sorry.
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    May 6, 2011, 01:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by BMI View Post
    YOU have no authority to determine he is any of the above! Architect is NOT good enough, you need to establish that he is the architect
    He himself said he was.
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    May 6, 2011, 01:19 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by ITstudent2006 View Post
    I was kidding. I don't watch that stuff and I can't read so books are a no-go.

    I could have been serious (or acted like it) and made you feel bad...
    You could have had a lot of fun with that, too. I'm super gullible and am easily guilted to boot.

    Thanks for being kind :)
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    #89

    May 6, 2011, 01:24 PM

    BMI- SO what is your stance on this whole OBL situation. Do you agree with the shooting? Celebration? etc...

    P.S. Where are you from? (simply curious)
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    #90

    May 6, 2011, 01:48 PM

    IT - I disagree with the shooting and I am not comfortable with the celebration. If he was captured alive, we'd know the whole story. The fact that they killed him, buried the body and did not provide any evidence of the event, brings the whole operation into disrepute.

    I'm from Toronto, Canada.
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    May 6, 2011, 01:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by BMI View Post
    If he was captured alive, we'd know the whole story.
    How do you figure that would work out?
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    #92

    May 6, 2011, 02:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    He himself said he was.
    Ever hear of the label 'fall guy'. Common tactic gang members and the mafia employ when their top dogs are being tried for certain crimes. The lower level 'employees' admit to the crimes and the bosses walk.

    Is OBL the fall guy in all of this? I doubt it, I think he did play a role. However, in order to establish the validity of these claims and given scenarios, you conduct trials. At trial they examine evidence, they piece together the events and corroborate it with evidence and testimony. Only then can you get a clear(er) picture of what actually happened.

    In the absence of the above, a man was shot in the face because it was WIDELY believed he killed 3000 people. He did what he did, how he did it because they said that's how it happened:rolleyes:.

    I mentioned I'm from Canada. Years back we had a man accused of murdering a child. The country WIDELY believed he was guilty without question. They conducted a trial and the evidence pointed towards him. He was convicted. Many years later, he was released. 100% innocent of the crime due to DNA testing.

    Imagine, all that proof and evidence and support for his conviction (not to mention what he was called and considered amongst the population and in prison) and he was innocent all along. Now consider, OBL being 'convicted' and sentenced to a bullet through his head without any of that process. Also take into account other 'strange happenings' in America in the past, WMD's, the magic bullet. Then, finally, mix that with the what, 8 different versions we've already heard of the killing, the peculiarities surrounding the very honest and respectful burial granted and the pictures and video that were taken but never released. I ask, is that just cause for killing him?
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    #93

    May 6, 2011, 02:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    How do you figure that would work out?
    Good question, let's ask him... damn!
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    #94

    May 6, 2011, 02:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by BMI View Post
    Good question, let's ask him...........damn!
    Yeah, like making him a batch of fudgy brownies (or raspberry baklava) would have encouraged him to tell all.
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    #95

    May 6, 2011, 03:04 PM

    I guess we will never know? I suppose that's why I am such a proponent of NOT killing someone before bringing them to trial.
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    May 6, 2011, 03:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by BMI View Post
    I guess we will never know? I suppose that's why I am such a proponent of NOT killing someone before bringing them to trial.
    Good to be a proponent of such.
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    May 6, 2011, 03:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by BMI View Post
    Ok ClassyT. Just because you believe everything told to you by your very own government which has never falsified any account of any historical event to ever take place on its soil, doesn't make you naive. The United States is the friendliest nation towards all others and always has been. Bush was just a religious guy expressing his religious views. The USA is NEVER out of line and certainly didn't convince you that the WMD's in Iraq didn't exist, nor did they alter your opinion of their advance when it turned out they did'nt exist...oops (How come I feel like i just told a kid Santa does not exist?) You should most definetly celebrate death, your good enough;)
    Hello? BMI... you go to far. I never claimed any of the above... you assume and you know what happends when someone assumes.

    HOWEVER, it IS one of the funniest posts I've read on this site. Interesting that you are MORE than willing to give OBL the benefit of the doubt but you've got ME all figured out and judged according to your small minded assumptions. Here is a wild and crazy thought... Why don't you extend to me the same courtesy you have osama? The hypocrisy of your post would be laughable, if it weren't so UNbelievable.
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    May 6, 2011, 03:18 PM

    Slam dunk... Classy take a victory lap... and spike the ball!!
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    May 6, 2011, 03:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by BMI View Post
    In the absence of the above, a man was shot in the face because it was WIDELY beleived he killed 3000 people. He did what he did, how he did it because they said that's how it happened.
    "They" didn't say anything. HE said he did it.

    He had the opportunity to surrender. He decided not to.
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    May 6, 2011, 03:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    slam dunk ....Classy take a victory lap.... and spike the ball !!!!!
    Tom,

    You think I'm "good enough" to dance during the victory lap. I'm STILL shaking my head. :)

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