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    #21

    May 1, 2011, 06:56 PM

    They went to college.
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    May 1, 2011, 07:17 PM

    So what you are saying is that americans are taught to hate their own country by their very expensive tertiary education system. Seems you are not getting much bang for your buck there. Shoot a few academics and that will change
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    #23

    May 1, 2011, 08:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    They went to college.
    Hello again, Steve:

    Ergo - education is the enemy... It makes you elite, and you don't want to be one of the dreaded elite.

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    May 2, 2011, 02:03 AM

    Well ex I was once asked whether I prefer being part of the elete
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    May 2, 2011, 02:15 AM

    The real question is ;why does Jimmy Carter ;a former POTUS , work to undermine US policies abroad ?
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    May 2, 2011, 02:18 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Ergo - education is the enemy... It makes you elite, and you don't want to be one of the dreaded elite.
    Keep 'em dumb and they'll vote republican.
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    May 2, 2011, 04:12 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    The real question is ;why does Jimmy Carter ;a former POTUS , work to undermine US policies abroad ?
    Do you have to ask? Being a President of the US doesn't stop you from being a ****head, George W Bush demonstrated that
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    May 2, 2011, 04:35 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Ergo - education is the enemy... It makes you elite, and you don't want to be one of the dreaded elite.
    Next you'll be telling us how liberals brains are bigger. I realize most libs have swollen heads but it isn't because of that.

    I LOVE education, where can you get one minus the leftist indoctrination?
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    May 2, 2011, 04:41 AM

    I LOVE education, where can you get one minus the leftist indoctrination?
    Hillsdale

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    Subscription to their Imprimis news letter is a must for all thinking conservatives .
    Hillsdale College - Imprimis
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    #30

    May 2, 2011, 04:57 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Seems like a good school - not much different than any other private school.
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    May 2, 2011, 05:16 AM

    It is a fine college. It is one of the few that is ranked high by Conservatives that doesn't have claim to base it's curriculum on a Christian based education.
    http://www.yaf.org/topconservativecolleges.aspx
    There curriculum is 'classic liberalism 'which is much different than contemporary liberal indoctrination found in most US universities.
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    #32

    May 2, 2011, 07:11 AM

    Hello again, Steve:

    I don't know.. I'm watching Fox News and they're showing the reaction to the killing of Bin Laden... It's mostly college kids chanting USA - USA - USA.

    Doesn't look like they hate their country too much...

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    May 2, 2011, 09:11 AM

    Jimmy Carter is clearly and very publicly suffering the ravages of advanced Dementia.

    He was once merely the worst presidtent we ever had... before the current one...

    But he did a lot of good things with Habitat for humanity... but whatever mental defect he is suffering from has basically erodded those good works until every time he speaks up is a "Dear god shut him up!" moment.
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    May 2, 2011, 06:14 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    It is a fine college. It is one of the few that is ranked high by Conservatives that doesn't have claim to base it's curriculum on a Christian based education.
    Young America's Foundation - Top Conservative College List
    There curriculum is 'classic liberalism 'which is much different than contemporary liberal indoctrination found in most US universities.
    Hi Tom,

    I found your link very interesting, especially the following quote:

    Furthermore, they avoid trends in academe by continuing to study Western Civilization instead of straying towards Marxism, feminism, sexuality, postmodernism, and other distractions that do not give our country, our culture, and its founding principles.

    I don't know how things work over there but from my point of view I have never been involved in a course, say Marxism, that doesn't explore both the strengths and weaknesses of Marx. I don't know of any course which presupposes that Marx is infallible. In fact he comes in for criticism in just about every serious journal I have read about him.

    Let's take Marxism as an example again. Just because a university offers a course in Marxism doesn't mean there is a tendency or "straying" towards the Marxist position. In fact, I think the opposite is mostly the case.

    I don't want to go into detail about theories of knowledge and how knowledge progresses except to say that the important element is someone putting forward a theory and others mounting a criticism of
    Said theory.

    It seems to me that the above quote is an attempt to stop any theory comparisons. I think this is tantamount to saying that knowledge has progressed as far as it needs to.


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    #35

    May 3, 2011, 02:32 AM

    I suppose you never attended the modern American University . It is not curriculum as much as indoctrination into progressive cultural 'distractions'. It took me most of a decade to debrief.
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    #36

    May 3, 2011, 03:09 AM

    What are those progressive cultural distractions Tom? Are you suggesting footbrawl and basketball are subversive?
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    #37

    May 5, 2011, 06:48 AM

    Progressive Radio Host Mike Malloy suggested yesterday that the Navy Seals should "drop in" on George Bush.
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    #38

    May 5, 2011, 06:56 AM

    Hello again, tom:

    So, that proves the left hates America?? Dude! Rush Limprod has a bigger audience and he said Obama is a liar... Therefore, using your logic, the right hates America MORE than the left.

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    #39

    May 5, 2011, 07:32 AM

    The right isn't calling for the assassination of a former president, big difference. I dropped by Huffpo yesterday and one of the first comments I saw said "Bush is next."

    So let's weight this out - liar / kill Bush

    No, Rush was pretty tame in comparison.
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    May 5, 2011, 07:41 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    So let's weight this out - liar / kill Bush
    Hello again, Steve:

    You have a habit of finding lone jerkoffs, and saying they represent the left... If you want to discuss what the LEFT believes, I'll have that discussion with you... But, to discuss the actions or beliefs of single weirdo's isn't something I choose to engage in, because it means nothing...

    The FACT of the matter is, the LEFT doesn't want to kill Bush, and the LEFT loves American just like the right does... Are you going to bring up another crazy lefty to prove your point?? Don't you think I can come up with a nutty rightwinger to counter it?? Do you think that is productive?

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