[ITstudent2006]

HSB- It's safe to assume evolution didn't happen right?

[tickle]

Tick,

I have never heard of Camping until I posted this thread...I certainly never heard of him back in 1988 either... I did read on CNN.com about a month or so ago regarding this subject however...I don't remember mention of his name. I'll see if I can find it and try to post it if I can.

Hi Depressed, thanks but no thanks, I have read enough about him here to last me a lifetime. :)

He has had some pretty good mileage here, I wonder if he has in his own community ?

Tick

[Wondergirl]

The Bible indicates that God is more interested in a contrite spirit and a broken heart.

Ummmm, actually, it's the reverse -- a contrite heart and broken spirit.

[HeadStrongBoy]

ITstudent2006: I despise a man...

Thanks for confirming what I already knew.

P.S. Notice my avatar name is HeadStrongBoy. So at least I'm not misrepresenting myself.
I don't claim to be in the same league of testosterone filled manhood as yourself.

[dwashbur]

:( ugh you're breaking my heart. But I appreciate your advice.

Appreciate it, but don't take it. Get with other believers who can help strengthen your faith. That's what the church is all about. Don't isolate yourself; that's one of the worst things a Christian can do.

[southamerica]

ITstudent is super manly and we love him. =)

[HeadStrongBoy]

Depressed in MO:ugh you're breaking my heart. But I appreciate your advice.
Dwashbur:Appreciate it, but don't take it. Get with other believers who can help strengthen your faith. That's what the church is all about. Don't isolate yourself; that's one of the worst things a Christian can do.

If you'd take the trouble to read my subsequent post you'd see I don't recommend isolation either. The essential point is to NOT be under the spiritual authority of any church, because Satan rules there.

And the one to "strengthen" our faith is God and His word, not other people. Though people can be instrumental in either direction... toward God or toward Satan.

[NeedKarma]

Have you eveer heard his name NK, other then on here?
tick

He's american. Never heard of him 'itll this thread. I'm guessing that since he was wrong about his 1994 prediction he lost any credibility he may have had.

[Wondergirl]

If you'd take the trouble to read my subsequent post you'd see I don't recommend isolation either. The essential point is to NOT be under the spiritual authority of any church, because Satan rules there.

And the one to "strengthen" our faith is God and His word, not other people. Though people can be instrumental in either direction...toward God or toward Satan.

So how do you propose someone be strengthened by others, yet not be "under the spiritual authority of a church" (whatever that means)?

[NeedKarma]

P.S. Notice my avatar name is HeadStrongBoy. So at least I'm not misrepresenting myself.

You're a 62 year old man. :rolleyes:

[Wondergirl]

He's american. Never heard of him 'itll this thread. I'm guessing that since he was wrong about his 1994 prediction he lost any credibility he may have had.

I'm American, read two dailies and a number of magazines, but had never heard of him until HSB showed up. I know about the Koran-burning guy though :).

[HeadStrongBoy]

WG:"under the spiritual authority of a church" (whatever that means)?

The Bible teaches that the new testament churches have three basic characteristics that typify their structure.
[1] Spiritual leadership. For example bishops, pastors, elders, deacons, teachers, etc. They have the authority to perform the two ceremonial rites of water baptism and the Lord's table. They also have the authority to excommunicate members.
[2] Members. These are the ordinary rank and file who are under the authority described in item [1].
[3] Services offering the ceremonial rites of water baptism and the Lord's table.

Those three characteristics were set up by God Himself to be followed during the Church Age from AD 33 until AD 1988. But now since 1988 "the abomination of desolation is standing in the holy place." "Let those in Judea (the Christians) flee to the mountain" (the kingdom of God outside the churches). To be a church member in our day means to be under the authority of (actually worshiping) Satan.

[HeadStrongBoy]

And you have a mustache and a pipe!

[NeedKarma]

And you have a mustache and a pipe!

Yes, yes I do.

On another note, I'll never understand how people take simple words from the bible and reinterpret them to mean something entirely different.

[Wondergirl]

To be a church member in our day means to be under the authority of (actually worshiping) Satan.

My pastor father would not be happy to hear you say that.

So when a pastor preaches Christ crucified, that's actually of Satan?

What about Christian grade schools and high schools and colleges? Are they also Satan's work now?

[southamerica]

Yes, yes I do.

On another note, I'll never understand how people take simple words from the bible and reinterpret them to mean something entirely different.

An American example:

"All men are created equal"

The word "men" used to mean something sooo very different than what it means today.

AND if you read any bills, laws, etc, the definitions of terms takes up half the document if not more.

Thorough definition so that there can be NO confusion of interpretation is vital, if we expect people to agree on what is written.

Even then, it isn't so iron clad.

[dwashbur]

The Bible teaches that the new testament churches have three basic characteristics that typify their structure.
[1] Spiritual leadership. For example bishops, pastors, elders, deacons, teachers, etc. They have the authority to perform the two ceremonial rites of water baptism and the Lord's table. They also have the authority to excommunicate members.
[2] Members. These are the ordinary rank and file who are under the authority described in item [1].
[3] Services offering the ceremonial rites of water baptism and the Lord's table.

Sounds exactly like the last three churches I've been to, and the next one I'm going to check out. Amazing how that works.

Those three characteristics were set up by God Himself to be followed during the Church Age from AD 33 until AD 1988. But now since 1988 "the abomination of desolation is standing in the holy place." "Let those in Judea (the Christians) flee to the mountain" (the kingdom of God outside the churches). To be a church member in our day means to be under the authority of (actually worshiping) Satan.

That's assuming one accepts the ridiculous number-manipulation that arrives at 1988 as something significant, which I don't. So I think I'll keep going to church. Depressed in MO, I suggest you do the same.

[HeadStrongBoy]

NK:On another note, I'll never understand how people take simple words from the bible and reinterpret them to mean something entirely different.

Thank you :rolleyes: for asking that.

The answer is somewhat complex, in my opinion. But in very simple terms (which need to be further explained at a later time perhaps) is that the Bible (we have today) was not intended to be correctly understood by simple minds. After all the author is God Himself. Who could be more mysterious than the INFINITE God Himself to our tiny little minds ? But He has in these last days opened seven seals that make it possible to understand much more accurately IF we humbly follow His rules.

[Synnen]

I still don't understand what events constitute the opening of the seals.

[NeedKarma]

But in very simple terms (which need to be further explained at a later time perhaps) is that the Bible (we have today) was not intended to be correctly understood by simple minds.

Ah, so it's designed to be understood by small elite group. Gotcha.