[Depressed in MO]

Posted by HSB:
"Total nonsense. The truth is not comforting at all. What's the point of defending an issue that's already been decided upon ? Would you really listen to facts ? I don't think so. "

I don't think it's about listening to the facts as much as it is about getting the facts, and the fact that you can't or won't provide any makes no one believe you. But then again, as you previously stated, you don't care...

[southamerica]

I'll tell you what's really hilarious is that you make up your own rules on how to interpret the Bible. The Bible explicitly has verses that tell us exactly how to interpret it. It acts as its own interpreter and as its own dictionary.....if you pay attention to its rules.

But of course you, and a lot of other people, are smarter than God.

Well, you certainly have inserted yourself as an authority in biblical interpretation, so please enlighten me...

How has Synnen misinterpreted the bible? About adultery, incest, et al? How should those verses be interpreted? Where are we told to interpret them.

[dwashbur]

He didn't comment on most things. Maybe he should apply some of his incisive logic into our questions...

I'm not gonna lie, I have never read the bible from beginning to end...just pieces from here to there...
144,000 people? how many people are in this world? Scary.
maybe I shouldn't read the bible.

A couple of times, Revelation mentions 144,000 Jews. We know the whole thing is symbolic because the lists of the tribes of Israel include at least one tribe that never existed, but the literalists conveniently overlook that fact. The number basically means nothing to the rest of us, so you can safely ignore it in this context.

[HeadStrongBoy]

The facts are available in much greater detail than I'm able to give. If you don't get them for yourself, don't blame me for that. Go to the Family Stations, Inc. website. And there are other websites with excellent source materials.

[Depressed in MO]

A couple of times, Revelation mentions 144,000 Jews. We know the whole thing is symbolic because the lists of the tribes of Israel include at least one tribe that never existed, but the literalists conveniently overlook that fact. The number basically means nothing to the rest of us, so you can safely ignore it in this context.

Oh I figured as much. Like I said, I'm no where near as knowledeable as most of you are about the bible, which could be one of the main reasons this whole thing is of concern to me. The last time I had bible study was a week ago. Prior to that, about 20 years ago as a young child...

[dwashbur]

I'll tell you what's really hilarious is that you make up your own rules on how to interpret the Bible.

Yeah, he reads it and looks at what it says. How silly is that??

[southamerica]

Hey Depressed, for what it's worth, 5/21 is a Saturday-so you won't have to keep your kids from school. And the 22nd is the day of rest :)

[dwashbur]

Oh I figured as much. Like I said, I'm no where near as knowledeable as most of you are about the bible, which could be one of the main reasons this whole thing is of concern to me. The last time I had bible study was a week ago. Prior to that, about 20 years ago as a young child...

No sweat. Nobody is born knowing this stuff. We all start in the same place. The biggest difference between you and us is, we've been at this longer than you have. That's about it.

But there's a big similarity, too: you and we have more sense than to listen to nonsensical date-setting gibberish...

[Depressed in MO]

Hey Depressed, for what it's worth, 5/21 is a Saturday-so you won't have to keep your kids from school. And the 22nd is the day of rest :)

See I'm so worked up I don't even know what I'm saying anymore! :rolleyes:

[HeadStrongBoy]

Your caustic manner assures me that your request for enlightenment is utterly sincere. Obviously you take me for a fool. How can a fool teach you anything at all ? You're already much wiser than I am.

[Synnen]

I'll tell you what's really hilarious is that you make up your own rules on how to interpret the Bible. The Bible explicitly has verses that tell us exactly how to interpret it. It acts as its own interpreter and as its own dictionary.....if you pay attention to its rules.

But of course you, and a lot of other people, are smarter than God.

And you do NOT make up your own rules on how to interpret the Bible? Why are YOUR rules more valid than MY rules?

It does NOT act as its own interpreter and dictionary, or there would not be religious schisms and there would not be constant bickering about what this or that verse means. If it was OBVIOUS what the Bible was saying, we'd ALL AGREE on what the Bible was saying.

But you, and a lot of other people, think you know EXACTLY what God is saying, so you think you're better than the people who use logic and questioning to arrive at their beliefs.

[Depressed in MO]

BY HBS:
"The facts are available in much greater detail than I'm able to give. If you don't get them for yourself, don't blame me for that. Go to the Family Stations, Inc. website. And there are other websites with excellent source materials"

Most or all of us have done that. The thing is, it's interesting to have you here, so as we are inquiring as to what it is/was personally to have made you become a believer and what you base your facts on because of that-you are declining any further action or detail.

[Synnen]

I am not ASKING you to give me websites.

I am ASKING you to tell us what you believe and why it is that you, personally, believe it.

How hard is that to answer?

[southamerica]

Your caustic manner assures me that your request for enlightenment is utterly sincere. Obviously you take me for a fool. How can a fool teach you anything at all ? You're already much wiser than I am.

No, HSB, I am asking you a sincere question. You seem extremely certain that you know how to interpret the bible, and what the bible is saying, and I truly want an answer.

You say that the whole bible is to be taken seriously. And you say that the verses Synnen references are merely her interpretation.

I have heard of the verses to which Synnen refers, and I have only ever heard them brushed off as "old testament". SO, you are a believer of the whole bible, and Synnen has brought forth statements to the bible, and you have said they are misinterpreted and the bible tells us how to interpret them.

I would like to know, then, how the bible tells us to interpret them, and how they are to be interpreted. I eagerly await your response.

[NeedKarma]

More about this supposed prophet: Harold Camping - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[HeadStrongBoy]

How has Synnen misinterpreted the bible? About adultery, incest, et al? How should those verses be interpreted? Where are we told to interpret them.

In case you don't remember the original question is about May 21, 2011. Not about sexuality or sexual sins. I'm not going to be drawn into a discussion about that subject on this thread.

I merely used his comment as a seg-way to show that the Bible gives us specific rules that should be used to interpret all parts of the Bible. The process is quite involved and it's not easy at all. It requires much time and prayer to get the truth.

[Wondergirl]

seg-way

Segway = a two-wheeled conveyance
segue = a transition

[southamerica]

In case you don't remember the original question is about May 21, 2011. Not about sexuality or sexual sins. I'm not going to be drawn into a discussion about that subject on this thread.

I merely used his comment as a seg-way to show that the Bible gives us specific rules that should be used to interpret all parts of the Bible. The process is quite involved and it's not easy at all. It requires much time and prayer to get the truth.

That's true, I guess we should make sure the OP is okay with you answering these questions.

Depressed, would you be okay if we asked HSB this question?

[southamerica]

ERROR: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Wondergirl again.

Tee Hee

[HeadStrongBoy]

Thanks for that clarification. I already knew that. But I dummed it down in case other readers didn't.