[HeadStrongBoy]

WG

God has already given us salvation.

Who in the wide wide world of sports is... US ?

Excuse me!! But your statement above seems to me the height of arrogance and presumption. Or maybe you just don't really grasp what salvation is all about.

And salvation has everything to do with seeking God, in my opinion. Although our seeking it in no way guarantees anything. Nevertheless it is the one overriding and compellingly urgent reason why we should continue to seek God.

[HeadStrongBoy]

WG

Our seeking God is part of Sanctification. I said we seek God in the faces of all those around us, ministering to the least among us.

I don't give two hoots about what you said.

It's what the Bible says that counts.

[Wondergirl]

WG

I don't give two hoots what you said.

It's what the Bible says that counts.

I already quoted the Bible. None of this is from me.

[HeadStrongBoy]

WG

I already quoted the Bible. None of this is from me.

We are on this thread presumably because we are servicing the askers question. Yet you seem to keep retreating to a world of your own. If you are tired of discussing how we can seek God, and giving reasonable effort to corroborating your statements, then maybe you should take some personal time out.

[HeadStrongBoy]

Southamerica

I guess I'll take my chances

:)

I too take my chances. :cool:

[Wondergirl]

you should take some personal time out.

I hereby unsubscribe to this thread.

[dwashbur]

WG

We are on this thread presumably because we are servicing the askers question. Yet you seem to keep retreating to a world of your own. If you are tired of discussing how we can seek God, and giving reasonable effort to corroborating your statements, then maybe you should take some personal time out.

You said only the Bible counts; she pointed out that she has already quoted the Bible, and then you descended into personal attack. It seems to me WG has made her case and you just keep dodging.

[HeadStrongBoy]

Dwashbur

It seems to me WG has made her case...

I have a new pespective on how this site is managed, and I fully intend to abide by the policy of servicing the original asker's question. And not allowing myself to be sucked into personal (or otherwise) debates.

Wondergirl said:

Our seeking God is part of Sanctification.

That's WG's latest statement on the issue of seeking God. Right now this minute I'm not going to go looking all over this site to find any Bible verses she may have given to support that assertion.

I'm saying that the assertion she made should not be left standing by itself like it is. She should have immediately included at least one good Bible reference to support her sentence. Anyone can make any assertions they please, as far as I'm concerened. But here we're trying to help answer a question and hopefully supply some food for thought and also possibly some corroboration for our claims.

[dwashbur]

dwashbur


Wondergirl said: That's WG's latest statement on the issue of seeking God. Right now this minute I'm not going to go looking all over this site to find any Bible verses she may have given to support that assertion.

I'm saying that the assertion she made should not be left standing by itself like it is. She should have immediately included at least one good Bible reference to support her sentence. Anyone can make any assertions they please, as far as I'm concerened. But here we're trying to help answer a question and hopefully supply some food for thought and also possibly some corroboration for our claims.

So, she already gave her biblical references for such things, but because you don't feel like going to find them (apparently didn't notice them the first time?), she should reinvent the wheel. Wow. I'm out of this discussion as well.

[HeadStrongBoy]

An excellent Bible verse that directly speaks to the issue of our seeking God is found in Zephaniah 2:3.

"Seek ye YHWH all ye meek of the Earth which have wrought His judgment. Seek righteousness. Seek meekness. It may be ye shall be hid in the day of YHWH's anger."

[classyT]

HSB,

Do you go back and read the things you say to people? You are rude and proud. Or were you too busy being obnoxious to notice . WG was being nice to you.

You keep offending everyone and they will leave the threads... then you won't have anyone to share that wealth of knowledge in your bonehead... errrr.. I mean headstrong mind of yours. So knock it off. Lest you are left with no one to discuss with.

[HeadStrongBoy]

Yes the Bible itself says that God gives grace to the humble, and He resists the proud.

Therefore, to put oneself into an environment where God is saving, we should strive to be as humble as possible toward God. And if that means stepping on a few toes, here and there, so be it.

The point is that we should obey God, and fear God rather than fear displeasing people.

The earthquake in Japan is just another preview of the grand-daddy of all earthquakes that's coming May 21, 2011. Repent... now while there is still time.

[southamerica]

The tsunami that hit Japan is an indicator of what an 8.8 earthquake is capable of. And an earthquake is an indicator of plate tectonics. Plate tectonics are a part of the geology of the Earth.

Okay I'm not much of a scientist AT ALL but I at least know that there are physical reasons earthquakes and tsunamis happen.

My heart aches for Japan and those who lost homes and loved ones. I pray for their healing.

I am sorry to have revisited this thread, I just do not like it when people use natural disasters or terrorism as a reason to say people must repent.

[HeadStrongBoy]

I'm not much of a scientist either. But this thread is about seeking God. And God is in charge of all things, including plate tectonics.

So, I'd say it's not much of a stretch to presume God is warning us with the current series of quakes. As we approach the day of May 21, 2011.

And as far as really seeking God, there is no time like the present to seek God. Salvation may still be found. Like it or not.

[dwashbur]

I'm not much of a scientist either. But this thread is about seeking God. And God is in charge of all things, including plate tectonics.

So, I'd say it's not much of a stretch to presume God is warning us with the current series of quakes. As we approach the day of May 21, 2011.

Using natural disasters and the misery of others to try and push one's agenda is the height of tackiness. Unfortunately, it's not all that surprising out of you.

And as far as really seeking God, there is no time like the present to seek God. Salvation may still be found. Like it or not.

Um, according to you, no it can't, because it's all preordained, predestined, presweetened and all that and there's nothing we can do about it. I'm glad you've seen the error of your ways.

[HeadStrongBoy]

HeadStrongBoy: And as far as really seeking God, there is no time like the present to seek God. Salvation may still be found. Like it or not.

Dwashbur: Um, according to you, no it can't, because it's all preordained, predestined, presweetened and all that and there's nothing we can do about it. I'm glad you've seen the error of your ways.

Not at all. I never said that salvation could not be found. You seem to be just as lax in paying attention to what I've written as you claim I am. I've maintained all along that believing in Jesus, accepting Jesus, being baptized in water, and following the rules of the churches, is not the way to find salvation.

[classyT]

Not at all. I never said that salvation could not be found. You seem to be just as lax in paying attention to what I've written as you claim I am. I've maintained all along that believing in Jesus, accepting Jesus, being baptized in water, and following the rules of the churches, is not the way to find salvation.

ROM 10:9-10, 13 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."�

In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
Ephesians 1:13-14

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
John 3:36

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. Acts 16:31


Let GOD be true and every man a liar. Bummer HSB:p

[HeadStrongBoy]

classyT said: bummer HSB

Not at all. The verses you've quoted come from the Bible. No doubt about that. But you've presented them in a way that slants your message in a certain direction. Talk about lack of balance!!

To be faithful to the whole Bible (the whole gospel) we must remember to include the warning about Judgment Day, May 21, 2011. Which is almost upon us now.

[450donn]

Not at all. The verses you've quoted come from the Bible. No doubt about that. But you've presented them in a way that slants your message in a certain direction. Talk about lack of balance !!!

To be faithful to the whole Bible (the whole gospel) we must remember to include the warning about Judgment Day, May 21, 2011. Which is almost upon us now.

OK where EXACTLY in the Bible is this date given according to your false teachings??

[HeadStrongBoy]

450donn said: OK where EXACTLY in the Bible is this date given according to your false teachings??

I gave an answer to that question yesterday. Go to Member Discussions/Current Events on this forum, and look at the thread there.