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    #41

    Sep 1, 2010, 12:20 PM

    Psssst, it's "COULDN'T care less." "Could care less" means they ummmm could care less than they do now.
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    #42

    Sep 1, 2010, 12:23 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    It's truly amazing the amount of power we lefties have. The righties have no match for it.
    Oh no, we have Fox news.
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    #43

    Sep 1, 2010, 12:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    can you link us to Bush's school records? And Reagan's?
    No but I bet Mary Mapes could make something up.

    Now that the jokes are out of the way, this is a waste of time Smoothy. Move along.
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    #44

    Sep 1, 2010, 12:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    No .
    That was my point they can't be found.
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    Sep 1, 2010, 12:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Psssst, it's "COULDN'T care less." "Could care less" means they ummmm could care less than they do now.
    Yeah, I noticed that... but actually I really could care less as well. I'm sort of indifferent...
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    Sep 1, 2010, 12:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Psssst, it's "COULDN'T care less." "Could care less" means they ummmm could care less than they do now.
    DOH! :p
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    Sep 1, 2010, 12:47 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    No but I bet Mary Mapes could make something up.

    Now that the jokes are out of the way, this is a waste of time Smoothy. Move along.
    Yeah... they can't prove he IS as smart as the party wants them to believe.

    Just like Islamic Terrorists that actually believe there are 27 virgins waiting for them if they kill people. THey MIGHT get Virgins... but virgin WHAT's. Be happy with the 27 virgin Camels, that's as close to a woman as they will ever get..

    Reality is far different than what they believe.
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    #48

    Sep 1, 2010, 12:52 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Yeah...they can't prove he IS as smart as the party wants them to believe.
    Ok let's go with that. I'm going on the assumption that you believe you're a smart fellow, how do you go about objectively proving that to people?
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    Sep 1, 2010, 12:55 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Ok let's go with that. I'm going on the assumption that you believe you're a smart fellow, how do you go about objectively proving that to people?
    Simple, had he released his college transcripts like every other president or candidate has... his grades would speak for themselves. After all an idiot would not get a 4.0 GPA, nor would a smart person get a 1.0

    Bill Clinton released his... so did Bush, and we all know why Kerry delayed releasing his... but they were released eventually, after he lost, but I give him kudos for still doing it, even if it was late..
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    Sep 1, 2010, 01:03 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    No but I bet Mary Mapes could make something up.

    Now that the jokes are out of the way, this is a waste of time Smoothy. Move along.
    I like the show Swamp people has anyone ever seen it? Its guys who live in Louisiana and "fish" gators. It is awesome unless you don't like seeing Gators shot in the back of the head.
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    #51

    Sep 1, 2010, 01:11 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Simple, had he released his college transcripts like every other president or candidate has....his grades would speak for themselves. After all an idiot would not get a 4.0 GPA, nor would a smart person get a 1.0

    Bill Clinton released his...so did Bush, and we all know why Kerry delayed releasing his....but they were released eventually, after he lost, but I give him kudos for still doing it, even if it was late..
    But I asked you for Bush's and Reagan's and you never answered.
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    Sep 1, 2010, 01:20 PM

    Getting back to your original post Smoothy (re: Tiger Woods vs Obama info supplied) I think the sad fact is, more people will pay to read about or tune into the television to view alll the dirty, seamy, juicy little details regarding the fall from grace of a living icon, rather than the information you are seeking.

    It comes down to the almighty dollar. If it didn't, that slimebucket who owns TMZ would never have gotten as far as he has.

    If there was anything earth shattering in the information on Obama, I believe someone at Fox News would have already dug it up.
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    #53

    Sep 1, 2010, 01:43 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Another_Lemming View Post
    If there was anything earth shattering in the information on Obama, I believe someone at Fox News would have already dug it up.
    Correct.. or McCain would have used it.
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    #54

    Sep 1, 2010, 03:01 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    That was my point they can't be found.
    NK, you could have just accepted my lighthearted approach and been happy that I saw this thread as a waste of time, but no. And so...

    Bush's Yale transcript
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    Sep 1, 2010, 03:39 PM

    I for one would be interested in the Bama's transcripts; and even more ;the published papers the President of the Harvard Law Review authored.

    Guess we will never see them .Too bad . That is why conspiracy theorists get traction .The issue is this... if the President wasn't being so opaque... and mysterious... if he indeed felt that the American people deserved transparency like he claims... then all this stuff would be public knowledge.
    Unrelated.. .
    Can we expect "time to turn the page" to replace "mission accomplished "?
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    #56

    Sep 1, 2010, 03:45 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Correct..or McCain would have used it.
    Its all under court order secrecy protection.

    Otherwise, they would be available... FOX would have reported on it... and there would not be anything to argue about on the topic.

    Like I said... 9 people are facing Jail time and $100,000 fines for trying to get his school records. I linked the story for ExCon earlier, it from this past weekend. If they were public information, then present proof. If you can, then there is no argument because we would know how well or bad he really did. We knew what Bush did, we know what John Kerry Did, we know what Bill Clinton did.

    However nobody can show what Obama did, yet they argue about how smart he is, without knowing if he was a D student or an A student.

    Show me a Harvard transcript showing a 3.5 GPA or better... nobody here would argue a person that got that wasn't smart. And I'd be first in line to agree.
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    #57

    Sep 1, 2010, 04:03 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Its all under court order secrecy protection.
    I have heard this for a while from a number of different people. I can't find proof of it outside of blogs. Do you have a factual link you can post?

    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    However nobody can show what Obama did, yet they argue about how smart he is, without knowing if he was a D student or an A student.
    Show me a Harvard transcript showing a 3.5 GPA or better....nobody here would argue a person that got that wasn't smart. And I'd be first in line to agree.
    As far as I am concerned, good grades mean diddly. My brother could barely maintain a 2.0 average but he has an IQ of 150. He simply tests poorly. I think Obama is smart. Look how far he has gotten. I haven't managed to make it as President of my block association, much less the U.S.A!
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    Sep 1, 2010, 04:59 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Just_Another_Lemming View Post
    I have heard this for a while from a number of different people. I can't find proof of it outside of blogs. Do you have a factual link you can post?



    As far as I am concerned, good grades mean diddly. My brother could barely maintain a 2.0 average but he has an IQ of 150. He simply tests poorly. I think Obama is smart. Look how far he has gotten. I haven't managed to make it as President of my block association, much less the U.S.A!
    Well, he destroyed the economy, quadrupled the national debt, and ran the Unemployment rate up substantuially... Blamed everything on a person that's not even in Government...

    Yeah... real good accomplishment there. Hell, I've done better than that, If Obamas smart, then I'm a Genius.

    Here is one place that compiled it by item...

    The Death of the Grown-Up | Diana West > Home - "The Case Against Barack Hussein Obama"

    Link to the executive order that seals them, pay notice to the URL as it's a government site.

    http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1712.pdf
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    #59

    Sep 1, 2010, 06:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Link to the executive order that seals them, pay notice to the URL as its a goverment site.

    http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-1712.pdf
    Can you show me where in that document he orders his educational records sealed?
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    Sep 1, 2010, 07:06 PM

    It doesn't .It applies to Presidential papers generated while he is in office. Every President renews this order so they can have exclusive access to them for their Presidential Libraries after they retire from office. It has nothing to do with documents generated before the President was in office.

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