[sagluva]

so the f&w whitenizer gel mixed with the serum and face cream will make the skin quite fair, that's some really good stuff then. Is this the serum and cream that your talking about?

I saw the whitenizer gel for around $9.85 on amazon, so that's a nice price. but the creme costs more than the makari. yeah your right, the exclusive only mentioned kojic acid. but kojic is not known to brighten so much so fast though. and others on forums said it contained hq, but I don't see it listed in the ingredients list. i wonder if it would also work great mixing the f&w gel with makari, if it will make it more potent?

Yes that's the face cream.when I started bleaching last jan, I only used the face cream and the serum.. not the gel.. I lightened 5 shades with those two products.. I got so happy with the results and wanted to keep getting fairer faster so I added the gel to the mix.. lol.. was too fair and my mom kept telling me to stop so I took a break for the summer. Right now I'm using only the serum and gel and it lightens just as good also. The cream is too expensive so I'm not using it at the moment. The cream makes your face really smooth so that's the advantage it has.. if you were to use one product, I would recommend the serum mixed with the gel or any other cream of your choice.. The serum is the strongest but it won't work well unless mixed with a cream or gel.

[Golden_Girl]

OK thanks Sagluva. Did you squeeze the tube of the gel in the serum and then mix, or just used them one after the other?

[fairr]

Just what I was going to ask!
Also is it it the plain serum or the one with the vit C
Does it make a difference? :S

[BrownDeceit]

Is this hydroquinone based?

[BrownDeceit]

I need to lighten up my arms fast!

[fairr]

What the f&w? I think it is

[BrownDeceit]

Awww I don't think it'll work on me. I tried it on my face once it just turned me red. You guys are lucky hydro works for you.

[sagluva]

ok thanks Sagluva. did you squeeze the tube of the gel in the serum and then mix, or just used them one after the other?

I mix them together in my palm every morning and then rub on my face. When you mix two creams together and store, after a while the potency of the cream reduces. That's y I always mix a little bit in my palm every morning/evening before each use.

[sagluva]

just what i was going to ask!
also is it it the plain serum or the one with the vit C
does it make a difference? :S

I've used both but to be honest I don't think there is any diffrence really between the regular and vit c one.. I just get the regular because its cheaper and take vit c pills lol

[lighterrr]

From what I know it is hq based nothing wrong with hq, its just not advisable to use it longterm

[fairr]

Aurgh the bio claire is making my face all rosy looking and I've got pink cheeks :|
What should I do? I didn't apply it today... anything else?

[Gr8stuff]

fairr, could it be that you've lightened too much; that's why you're turning pink? If so, shouldn't that be a good thing? :confused:

Edit: I've just realised you're a guy and pink cheeks are probably not so cool for you after all.. lol

[fairr]

Oh I never thought about that...
It still looks horrid! Haha

[so sexy]

Who knows what the out come of the bio clair will do, hopefully the pink goes away.

[fairr]

Yeah I'm going to get off it next week and start a new regime...

[so sexy]

Post your regimen when you start

[fairr]

Yeah I will its retin a and hq 4% and vit C
What's your regime so sexy?

[Golden_Girl]

I'm still waiting what seems like forever for my retin a and hq 4% to finally arrive, I feel I might as well go to India and just pick it up to speed up things.

[fairr]

Hahaha ah golden!
I was so annoyed I did a brown deciet and went through my mums 'skin cream' draw and struck gold with some obagi 4% hq with vitamin C then found a tube of retin A
I was so happy then when I was out she must've gone through my things and taken back the hq, now I can't find it
But I still have the retin a...
I'm thinking of mixing it in with the F&W exclusive whitenizer with vitamin C?

By the way where did you order yours from? Everywhere seems so expensive!

[Itss A New Day]

I'm still waiting what seems like forever for my retin a and hq 4% to finally arrive, I feel I might as well go to India and just pick it up to speed up things.

Haha!