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Oct 23, 2009, 03:06 PM
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Another one under the bus
Instead of standing behind his man Obama has now thrown Democratic Virginia governor candidate R. Creigh Deeds under the bus, sensing a loss in the works. What a courageous, principled man in the White House. Some people are not too happy about that.
And in another profile in courage, everyone that had a say in throwing Deeds under the bus is just another 'anonymous.'
As a writer who occasionally commits political journalism, I understand the need for the occasional background quote in an article about a sensitive topic. But it's a tool to be used with care rather than abandon.
Here are the anti-Deeds sources in today's Wash Post smackdown:
* "Democrats at the national level"
* "Senior administration officials"
* "Democratic strategists"
* "a national Democratic strategist"
* "A senior administration official"
* "A second administration official"
* "national Democrats"
* "administration officials"
Not a single one is named. Apparently none had the courage to go on the record. Apparently the Post didn't think it was necessary to demand it of them. The line between journalism and gossip blurs.
Are there any grownups in the White House? Who cares, I sense an implosion on the left any day now...
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Oct 23, 2009, 03:51 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Instead of standing behind his man.....Are there any grownups in the White House? Who cares, I sense an implosion on the left any day now...
Deeds threw the Democrats under the bus -- "Kaine, who is also chairman of the Democratic National Committee, told Deeds that he should lay out more of his own vision and stop attacking Republican Robert F. McDonnell so ferociously. But Deeds did not embrace the advice, according to a national Democratic strategist." Who's not a grownup?
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Oct 23, 2009, 04:21 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Deeds threw the Democrats under the bus -- "Kaine, who is also chairman of the Democratic National Committee, told Deeds that he should lay out more of his own vision and stop attacking Republican Robert F. McDonnell so ferociously. But Deeds did not embrace the advice, according to a national Democratic strategist." Who's not a grownup?
Yeah, that's the story team Obama is going with, too. :D
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Oct 23, 2009, 04:24 PM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Yeah, that's the story team Obama is going with, too.
Deeds is an idiot. Read up on him.
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Oct 23, 2009, 04:49 PM
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 Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Deeds is an idiot. Read up on him.
Since when has that ever stopped a Democrat from supporting another Democrat?
Obama throws political muscle to Deeds
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Oct 23, 2009, 04:50 PM
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There are some very interesting races coming up . Besides the VA Guv there is interesting developments in both NJ Guv and NY23rd special elections. In both cases ,Conservative challengers are making real headway .
In NJ that means the Republican nominee ,who barely survived a conservative challenge in the primaries by Steve Lonegan ,is now seeing his huge lead evaporate as anti-incumbent /anti-Democrat /anti -Obama votes are being split. That is not good news because Christe would be an improvement over Goldman-Sachs Democrat Corzine. I would like to see a Christe win ;or even better a win by the Independent Daggert . But I fear the Republicans have shot themselves in the foot in NJ and are wasting a huge opportunity .
In the NY 23rd a Conservative party challenge could go all the way and defeat the lib Dem ,and the RINO (so liberal she was endorsed by the Daily Kossacks )Rockefeller Republican who was selected by party hacks in a closed door smoke fillled room.
If you are not familiar ;this is a traditional red district that voted with the Obots in 2008 . The President ,suspecting he could pick the district off for the Congressional Dems ,appointed the Republican Rep. John McHugh as Sec of the Army ,leaving a vacancy to be filled this election cycle.
The Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman has the Club for Growth endorsement and both Rick Santorum and Sarah Palin has endorsed him over the party hack.
Hoffman is the type of future leader that the tea party movement is recruiting . He is a successful businessman ;citizen politician. He understands what government policy does to "Main Street " because he has lived it.
Both these elections are proof positive that the tea party movement is not beholden to either major party .
IN Va. As you mention the Obots are spinning a loss 2 weeks before the elections.
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Oct 23, 2009, 05:06 PM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
Hoffman is the type of future leader that the tea party movement is recruiting . He is a successful businessman ;citizen politician. He understands what government policy does to "Main Street " because he has lived it.
Actually I have been keeping track of both races. Interestingly, Hoffman has raised $210,000 this week against that RINO that called the cops on a Weekly Standard reporter - $116,000 since Palin endorsed him - which is an incredible number and shows strength in the conservative base. All this while the left continues with their meme on the death of conservatism.
IN Va. As you mention the Obots are spinning a loss 2 weeks before the elections.
Yep, couldn't even wait for the body to get cold.
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Oct 24, 2009, 05:10 AM
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More evidence of an implosion, although this trip was spun quite differently by the AP this morning:
President Obama blows into the bluest state today facing a cold shoulder from once true-blue admirers, as gay rights activists, anti-war protesters and vexed environmentalists vow to picket a fund-raiser he’s headlining for Gov. Deval Patrick - a marquee event that hasn’t even sold out.
As of last night, liberals who once braved frigid temperatures to behold Obama were shunning tickets to the fund-raiser at the posh Westin Copley Place featuring the president, sources told the Herald. And despite campaign denials, Patrick operatives reportedly were pushing the ducats - between $500 and $6,000 - by e-mail up to the last minute.
“ He’s reaching the point in his presidency where not only has the honeymoon ended, but the fighting has begun,” said Larry Sabato, a University of Virginia presidential scholar.
That's the problem with trying to be everything to everyone...
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Oct 24, 2009, 11:13 AM
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More mustard seeds sown in the fields .
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Oct 24, 2009, 11:26 AM
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 Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Actually I have been keeping track of both races. All this while the left continues with their meme on the death of conservatism.
Hello steve:
I've been watching too. Isn't this the race where Newt Gingrich endorsed the party hack? Looks like Palin v Gingrich 2012 is underway.
I don't think conservatism is dead. I think it's a teeny southern white male party lead by a couple a wacko chicks named Palin and Bachmann. Might as well be dead.
excon
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Oct 24, 2009, 11:28 AM
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Isn't this the race where Newt Gingrich endorsed the party hack?
Yes it's true... proof that Gingrich's time has come and gone .
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Oct 24, 2009, 12:02 PM
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 Originally Posted by tomder55
Yes it's true ....proof that Gingrich's time has come and gone .
Hello again, tom:
So, whatdya do when your party becomes pure, but too small to do anything about it?
excon
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Oct 24, 2009, 01:53 PM
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Disclaimer... I have never officially joined the Republican party .
As for the future of the party .I frankly think this will be a rebirth. The Republican tried what Reagan called pale shades of pastels in 1976 ,1992,1996,and 2008 . Except for a brief period when the conservative movement imposed it's will on the party ,they have never served as the majority party in Congress. Seems to me the Conservative taking a back seat to the Rockefeller country club ,Democrat-lite Republicans did not get them very far anyway . The way I see it the Republican have nothing to lose by embracing conservative agendas because that is the only time I have ever seen them have success in my life time .
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Oct 26, 2009, 06:28 AM
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Excon,
Interesting thing about the conservative party...
Just last week 3 of the top 10 NY Times non-fiction bestsellers were conservative books written by conservative authors.
A month ago, there were 4 conservative books on that list, but Liberty and Tyranny fell off the list a couple of weeks back after being the first political book of the decade to sell over 1 million copies.
Not bad for a "dead" party with ideals that people supposedly find "exclusive".
That's just one of MANY indicators of the viability of conservatism.
Another is the fact that 60% of Americans identify THEMSELVES as conservatives.
The "dead" party seems to be on the move.
Elliot
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Oct 27, 2009, 10:45 AM
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 Originally Posted by excon
I think it's a teeny southern white male party lead by a couple a wacko chicks named Palin and Bachmann.
excon
Two fine chicks, thanks excon; and you've got Hillary and Pelosi.
Btw: "For the first time in recent years, voters trust Republicans more than Democrats on all 10 key electoral issues regularly tracked by Rasmussen Reports. The GOP holds double-digit advantages on five of them." Trust on Issues - Rasmussen Reports
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Oct 27, 2009, 11:53 AM
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 Originally Posted by ETWolverine
Another is the fact that 60% of Americans identify THEMSELVES as conservatives.
Hello again, Elliot:
That might well be... However, given that only 20% of us identify ourselves as Republicans, most of those conservatives are getting thrown under the bus like Lindsay Graham. You certainly aren't going to say that 60% of Americans adopt YOUR brand of righwingism, are you? If so, how come you just lost the farm??
Dude! Reality belies the numbers you attempt to foist upon us.
excon
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Oct 27, 2009, 01:42 PM
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Graham being a Republican has always been a debatable proposition.
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Oct 27, 2009, 02:11 PM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Elliot:
That might well be... However, given that only 20% of us identify ourselves as Republicans, most of those conservatives are getting thrown under the bus like Lindsay Graham. You certainly aren't going to say that 60% of Americans adopt YOUR brand of righwingism, are you? If so, how come you just lost the farm???
Dude! Reality belies the numbers you attempt to foist upon us.
excon
Actually, what I see is a grass roots movement by conservatives to take the Republican party back... and it's succeeding. And the party is responding to it in their Congressional votes. If the Republican party wants the conservative vote, which it needs to win elections, then it is going to have to move to the right... which it has been doing in recent months.
So it turns out that the Republican party is becoming the big tent again... not by moving to the LEFT, as you have suggested, but by moving to the RIGHT where most Americans who call themselves CONSERVATIVES are standing. They are moving AWAY from the moderation of McCain, and toward Palin who represents the grass roots future of the party.
Elliot
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Oct 27, 2009, 02:42 PM
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I have no problem with a big tent. But ;like a choir ,they need to sing from the same song book or there won't be a coherent message to decide for or against.
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