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follow please · Jul 19, 2009, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by artlady

I'm and old hippie and civil disobedience is my claim to fame but I still don't want them involved.
I take my chances,I smoke when I want and where I live cops could care less.
If they bust you they usually take some and you get a smaller count in court.
In New York,it is called a syntax and it is on cigs,beer ,boats,you name it.

Ah you grew up in the good ol era. Well my perspective sees regulations telling kids they can't do anything for generations, and they grow up thinking that. But come one, our government is in place to BE rebelled against. We have a say, and we have the words, but dare we speak them? Im worried about the government getting in on it too... but if its , everyone goes back to closet grows and buying from the guy on the corner, and the government institution withers away right?

artlady · Jul 19, 2009, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by follow please

Are you just being thick headed? Im in canada...not the states. Im nowhere near California. The CANADIAN government has not legalized it, and the CANADIAN government doesnt have a tax system for it. This is my proposal to my dilemma, and im looking for INTELLIGENT people to respond and tell my if they agree with it, NOT if its happening elsewhere....

Why you YELLING?
Have they decriminalized in Canada ?
I had a guy on here a while back who said he was getting Gov. weed and it sucked,the Canadian weed.
There must be something going on.

excon · Jul 19, 2009, 06:08 PM

Hello again, Mr. follow:

I don't know. You want somebody intelligent. I'm him. You say you want something to start. I say it's started. I guess you're pissed because it hasn't started where YOU are yet.

I'm just telling you, that there's been a SEA CHANGE in the conversation about pot in just the last year. MAJOR things are in the wind.

So you tell me you want it to happen, and I'm telling you it IS happening, and you don't like that news.

Here. Go smoke some of this. It's good Seattle kush. Maybe it'll mellow you out a little bit.

excon

artlady · Jul 19, 2009, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by follow please

Ah you grew up in the good ol era. Well my perspective sees regulations telling kids they can't do anything for generations, and they grow up thinking that. But come one, our government is in place to BE rebelled against. We have a say, and we have the words, but dare we speak them? Im worried about the government getting in on it too...but if its , everyone goes back to closet grows and buying from the guy on the corner, and the government institution withers away right?

If you want to make a change go to the NORML web site and they will give you advice on how to make a change.

follow please · Jul 19, 2009, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Mr. follow:

I dunno. You want somebody intelligent. I'm him. You say you want something to start. I say it's started. I guess you're pissed because it hasn't started where YOU are yet.

I'm just telling you, that there's been a SEA CHANGE in the conversation about pot in just the last year. MAJOR things are in the wind.

So you tell me you want it to happen, and I'm telling you it IS happening, and you don't like that news.

Here. Go smoke some of this. It's good Seattle kush. Maybe it'll mellow you out a little bit.

excon

Yeah I see your point, thanks man, it'll make a nice mix with the sour diesel I just picked up. Im just pissed and ranting because of the digusting image it still has in society, and the anti-drug money that gets spent on it, when my school doesn't provide me with text books :(

N0help4u · Jul 19, 2009, 06:15 PM

I know you don't want to hear about other countries but you might find this article interesting even if it doesn't answer your question.
The part about not being legal but tolerated is the way I see it here in the US because while it is not legal the law does tend to turn the other way unless it is a major bust.

Patterico's Pontifications Legalization in Amsterdam

artlady · Jul 19, 2009, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Mr. follow:

I dunno. You want somebody intelligent. I'm him. You say you want something to start. I say it's started. I guess you're pissed because it hasn't started where YOU are yet.

I'm just telling you, that there's been a SEA CHANGE in the conversation about pot in just the last year. MAJOR things are in the wind.

So you tell me you want it to happen, and I'm telling you it IS happening, and you don't like that news.

Here. Go smoke some of this. It's good Seattle kush. Maybe it'll mellow you out a little bit.

excon

Here in N.Y. it is juicy fruit,flav of the week :)

excon · Jul 19, 2009, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by follow please

Im just pissed and ranting because of the digusting image it still has in society, and the anti-drug money that gets spent on it, when my school doesnt provide me with text books :(

Hello again, f:

You see, when CHANGE happens, it really HAPPENS...

Pot DOESN'T have that image in California any more. People buy it in NICE SAFE stores. They can buy marijuana candy, butter, cookies, rubs and oils, all packaged beautifully. They even have delivery guys on bikes in Oakland...

Nope. When it becomes legal, it becomes a product like any other...

Here's the good news about Canada. WE'RE the instigator of the drug war. When WE end it, it'll end up in the great white north too, and it IS... I've been waiting 40 years.

excon

follow please · Jul 19, 2009, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by artlady

Here in N.Y. it is juicy fruit,flav of the week :)

OMG, I just had Juicy Fruit last week... and omg that was amazing lol. It was very dense with a nice light green color, very tangy smell, almost citric. The taste was amazing

jenniepepsi · Jul 19, 2009, 06:18 PM

I'm confused... I know canibus is weed...

But I thought hemp was like, lotion, and twine and natrual clothing and stuff. Isn't it?

I am of 2 minds on this. I do believe that adults should have the right to choose to destroy their braincells with pot or not (I did it in high school and a year into adult hood)

However, if we legalize it, it will be made available to kids. Just like ciggarettes and alcohole are now. (trust me, they can, do and always WILL be able to get them, legal or not)

At least with pot illigal we can have SOME mesure of protection for our kids.

N0help4u · Jul 19, 2009, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by jenniepepsi

however, if we legalize it, it will be made available to kids. just like ciggarettes and alcohole are now. (trust me, they can, do and always WILL be able to get them, legal or not)

at least with pot illigal we can have SOME mesure of protection for our kids.

Where I live it is easier for kids to get illegal weed and crack than it is to get a pack of cigarettes or beer.

follow please · Jul 19, 2009, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, f:

You see, when CHANGE happens, it really HAPPENS....

Pot DOESN'T have that image in California any more. People buy it in NICE SAFE stores. They can buy marijuana candy, butter, cookies, rubs and oils, all packaged beautifully. They even have delivery guys on bikes in Oakland...

Nope. When it becomes legal, it becomes a product like any other....

Here's the good news about Canada. WE'RE the instigator of the drug war. When WE end it, it'll end up in the great white north too, and it IS.... I've been waiting 40 years.

excon

:):D I don't know, I guess I'm just sick of hearing really stupid arguments against perfectly good things... I mean, the guys that run our country, the ones with the superior court and the lawyers that spent years studying philosophy and how to construct an argument, completely glide over pot-holes...

follow please · Jul 19, 2009, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by N0help4u

Where I live it is easier for kids to get illegal weed and crack than it is to get a pack of cigarettes or beer.

It's the same here. What I'm looking for is tolerance I guess, this is mainly what I'm saying. It needs to be an open subject and not looked down upon.

excon · Jul 19, 2009, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by jenniepepsi

at least with pot illigal we can have SOME mesure of protection for our kids.

Hello j:

We DO?? I see keeping it illegal kept of out of YOUR hands.

excon

jenniepepsi · Jul 19, 2009, 06:27 PM

Mmm very true excon... I guess its just wishfull thinking. Had you asked these questions say, 6 years ago, I would have said 'HELL YEAH LEGALIZE IT! "

However, now I am a mom to a 5 year old who will be starting school next month (in 28 days accually, no, I'm not counting!)

So I'm biased, as I really don't want her exposed to it until she is at least 18 (if I'm lucky)

excon · Jul 19, 2009, 06:34 PM

Hello again, j:

Even the legalizers, like me, don't think it's appropriate for children. In my view, the ONLY way to keep out of their hands, is to legalize it.

Look, I think they do a pretty good job of keeping cigarettes out of kids hands. Don't you?

excon

artlady · Jul 19, 2009, 06:38 PM

My New York home grown and it is not easy here.A very short growing season.

jenniepepsi · Jul 19, 2009, 06:39 PM

Lol no excon I don't. I can see several kids around our complex smoking ciggarettes. They are all over the place. Especially at parks where they think they are not seen.

jenniepepsi · Jul 19, 2009, 06:41 PM

I thought it was illigal to grow too? Don't they show on the news people getting arrested for it?

artlady · Jul 19, 2009, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by jenniepepsi

i thought it was illigal to grow too? dont they show on the news people getting arrested for it?

Not if they don't find it :)
It is illegal but I need it for medical reasons and no one is going to tell me any different.
I can tolerate this better than most medications my doctor wants to prescribe.
I do what I have to do.;)