[speechlesstx]

OK ex, you wondered who was advocating for kids to have sex, the UK's NHS does.

NHS chiefs have been slammed after telling school children: “An orgasm a day keeps the doctor away.”

A controversial leaflet — titled Pleasure — has been handed out to parents, teachers and youth workers in a bid to modernise sex education.

It highlights the health benefits of frequent action between the sheets and suggests teens have a “right” to a sex life.

The leaflet says: “Health promotion experts advocate five portions of fruit and veg a day and 30 minutes’ physical activity three times a week.

“What about sex or masturbation twice a week?”

The pamphlet was drawn up by NHS Sheffield. Steve Slack, director of its HIV and sexual health clinic, said properly informed teens had as much right to physical relationships as adults.

But teachers branded the leaflet “deplorable”.

Deplorable indeed. No wonder they get twice the pregnancies while trying to reduce them.

[NeedKarma]

It is specifically aimed at professionals and parents. It gives ideas for how to talk about the pleasure aspect of sex in a sex-ed situation.

It's the National Health Service in the sense that it is produced by a small regional HIV and sexual health center that comes under the NHS umbrella.

But since that is not the curriculum in the US then it's a red herring.

[Alty]

Like I said before, back in the 30s-60s there were fewer kids having sex, fewer teen pregnancies and fewer cases of STD transmission.

Not true. Teens had sex, they just didn't talk about it. Pregnancise occurred and the couple were either forced to marry right away or the girl was sent away to give birth and then give the child up for adoption. Heck, a lot of my friends born in the 60's are adopted, born to teen moms. There goes that theory.

I remember being a teen. I also remember being a virgin on my wedding night. So was my wife.

Congratulations. You're not the norm, you should be proud. My parents, both raised with morals, church going, no sex ed, they had sex before marriage. I had sex before marriage. Where's that scarlet letter? ;)

As the years passed, more kids were getting pregnant, more teens were having sex, and more kids were getting STDs. Sex ed may not have been CAUSING the problem, but it most assuredly wasn't preventing it either, despite the promisses that it would. And so, pro-sex-ed people decided that they needed to take Drastic Action to prevent more teen pregnancies. They were going to hand out condoms to kids.

Sex ed isn't the problem, it's the kids. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Just because you teach abstinence doesn't mean they'll abstain. Just because you teach safe sex doesn't mean they'll actually use the condom you put in their hand.

Again, read the teen forums on this site. If I had a penny for every 16 something that came on this site and said "I had unprotected sex, could I be pregnant" I would be rich.

Obviously that kids school didn't teach safe sex and pass out condoms, either that, or, like every teen out there, she thinks she's invincible and it won't happen to her.

Teaching is not the problem, it's the students that are the problem and the parents that want to pretend that we're still living in the 30's.

Keep your kids out of the loop. Scare the crap out of them, make them think sex is evil, bad and shouldn't be enjoyed. Either that or hope that by not talking about sex they'll abstain, wait until they're married.

Leave your rosecolored glasses on. Tell me how that works for you when your daughter tells you she's on the pill and having sex with her boyfriend at the age of 15. Because it's not likely that your kids will follow in your footsteps, unless you live on a mountain in the middle of no where.

[Skell]

So what's your answer Elliot? What about the kids who's parents aren't like you?

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ml#post1851313

[speechlesstx]

It is specifically aimed at professionals and parents. It gives ideas for how to talk about the pleasure aspect of sex in a sex-ed situation.

It's the National Health Service in the sense that it is produced by a small regional HIV and sexual health center that comes under the NHS umbrella.

But since that is not the curriculum in the US then it's a red herring.

LOL, nothing is relevant to you NK. But since the OP is based on a story out of the UK (and I should know, it was my thread) it's entirely relevant. Why don't you become relevant for a change?

[450donn]

Not true. Teens had sex, they just didn't talk about it. Pregnancise occured and the couple were either forced to marry right away or the girl was sent away to give birth and then give the child up for adoption. Heck, alot of my friends born in the 60's are adopted, born to teen moms. There goes that theory.Count the numbers! For goodness sakes you are suppose to be an expert and don't have a clue. Teen pregnancy has been on the rise since the NEA and Government got involved. No one ever claimed that kids never had sex in the 30,40,50. But the incident of teen pregnancy sure was a lot less back then. STD's was almost unheard of except in prostitutes.



Congratulations. You're not the norm, you should be proud. My parents, both raised with morals, church going, no sex ed, they had sex before marriage. I had sex before marriage. Where's that scarlet letter? ;)



Sex ed isn't the problem, it's the kids. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. Just because you teach abstinence doesn't mean they'll abstain. Just because you teach safe sex doesn't mean they'll actually use the condom you put in their hand. That's the whole point, Sex Education IS the problem. Back in the old (my) day sex was learned a lot of different ways. Did not matter though we seemed to be able to repopulate the earth every generation without much trouble

Again, read the teen forums on this site. If I had a penny for every 16 something that came on this site and said "I had unprotected sex, could I be pregnant" I would be rich.Since the sex education as taught by schools does not work, maybe it is time to teach abstinence for a change and see how that works out

Obviously that kids school didn't teach safe sex and pass out condoms, either that, or, like every teen out there, she thinks she's invincible and it won't happen to her.Exactly. Teens today are a lost society. Look at the suicide rates among teens. Peer pressure is pushing them to doing things and experimenting far younger than in my day. Couple that with a society that is addicted to sex and you have an epomedic on your hands.

Teaching is not the problem, it's the students that are the problem and the parents that want to pretend that we're still living in the 30's.Your right almost. It is the lack of proper teaching. But why is it the governments place to teach children as young as 8 about sex?

Go ahead and keep your kids out of the loop. Scare the crap out of them, make them think sex is evil, bad and shouldn't be enjoyed. Either that or hope that by not talking about sex they'll abstain, wait until they're married. Like I have advocated before if parents are not involved in their childrens education they are failing as parents. If I had school age children today, I would be reviewing the curriculum in every class they attended and would not let them attend thise I found not relivent or improper or against my religious beliefs. Every parent should be also.

Leave your rosecolored glasses on. Tell me how that works for you when your daughter tells you she's on the pill and having sex with her boyfriend at the age of 15. Because it's not likely that your kids will follow in your footsteps, unless you live on a mountain in the middle of no where.

If parents teach their children moral values and to take responsibility for their actions you would probably see a dramatic fall in teen pregnancy and STD's. When you have parents that are drugged out or too busy getting drunk or trying to screw every neighbor, how can children do anything different?

[Skell]

If parents teach their children moral values and to take responsibility for their actions you would probably see a dramatic fall in teen pregnancy and STD's. When you have parents that are drugged out or too busy getting drunk or trying to screw every neighbor, how can children do anything different?

They cant... SO, someone else needs to teach them these things.. Seems logical to me that it is their teacher.

You make a good point. One that seems lost on Elliot. Just because his kids grow up learning these things from him in his strict Orthodox Jewish household, doesn't mean all kids do. What about them? Just let God take care of it?

No, someone needs to show some guidance to these kids.

[jenniepepsi]

Since the sex education as taught by schools does not work, maybe it is time to teach abstinence for a change and see how that works out

Just wanted to point out here, my school taught abstinence only... didnt do a bit of good... the numbers were still the same