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sagezantk · Jun 26, 2009, 01:15 PM

Why is Obama not respecting the constitution? It seems that he hasn't at all?

stevetcg · Jun 26, 2009, 01:16 PM

In what way do you feel he is not respecting the constitution?

sagezantk · Jun 26, 2009, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by stevetcg

In what way do you feel he is not respecting the constitution?

He is taking over the businesses and insurance companies. This is not right according to the constitution.

stevetcg · Jun 26, 2009, 01:25 PM

If he were actually taking them over, then yes, this would violate the constitution. He is not actually taking them over. He is signing laws that put regulations and requirements on them. This is not unconstitutional. Congress is writing the laws, the president is signing them and the supreme court is allowing them into effect.

This is the opposite of not respecting the constitution... this is celebrating it and working within both the letter and spirit of it.

AK lawyer · Jun 28, 2009, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by stevetcg

Congress is writing the laws, the president is signing them and the supreme court is allowing them into effect.

Actually, staff lawyers and lobbyists are writing the laws and Congress is adopting them, often without a single congressman reading them. :mad:

The Supreme Court doesn't "allow"... "them into effect." The SCOTUS only decides on the constitutionality of a law when it a case or controversy regarding such law has been appealed through the lower courts and the SCOTUS agrees to decide it. This process takes years.

Fr_Chuck · Jun 28, 2009, 05:54 AM

Actually I am not sure that the government can not "own" business, government agencies own electric, water and trash companies at least in my city.

Jake2008 · Jun 29, 2009, 09:25 AM

These are extraordinary times, and require extraordinary action.

My take on it is that the banks and insurance companies were largely unregulated, and make their own rules. They followed the law of greed and corruption, resulting in massive layoffs, and great losses for people with mortgages, jobs etc.

Because of that, new laws have to prevent another disaster, and somebody has to check and balance the greed of corporations, against the needs and essentials of the public.

I don't see any other way to ensure that there isn't a repeat of what's happened, without new laws.

excon · Jul 1, 2009, 09:41 AM

Hello:

I think they should pass a law that requires congressmen to read every word in every bill they vote on. That'll shorten up a lot.

excon

AK lawyer · Jul 1, 2009, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Jake2008

Because of that, new laws have to prevent another disaster, and somebody has to check and balance the greed of corporations, against the needs and essentials of the public.

I don't see any other way to ensure that there isn't a repeat of what's happened, without new laws.

Actually, this crisis was caused by the idiots & criminals in congress who passed laws requiring banks to give home mortgages to anyone.

Originally Posted by excon

Hello:

I think they should pass a law that requires congressmen to read every word in every bill they vote on. That'll shorten up up a lot.

excon

How are you going to enforce it? Make the congressmen take a test on the bill before the are allowed to cast their vote?

If they pass the law requiring them to read the bill, and even if they read that law, the next law they pass they could simply add a waiver saying "except for this law, we don't have to read it because it is too long and complicated and there is an emergency and we don't have time, and blah, blah, blah."

Then, for every subsequent bill, that language would be boilerplate that is automatically added.