[starbuck8]

Now anyone that can watch this and want to leave these dogs in shelters, so they can be backyard breeders is either senseless or lying! Now tell me you can't find just about any breed you want. These were from JUST ONE shelter!

Okay, get ready to do it with me!. AWWWWWWWWWWW!! ;)

YouTube - The ABC25 News Blooper Reel: Puppy 25!

[Alty]

The third one looks like an Ewok from Star wars. Tooo cute!

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! :)

[ashabees]

The HUMANE SOCIETY HAS COMPLETED AN INVESTIGATION AND PETLAND, AND OTHER WELL KNOWN PET STORES, GETS ITS PUPPIES FROM PUPPYMILLS..SO DON'T PLAY THE DEAD DOG GAME............In my first example, let’s assume that you simply have to have a dog today. And you don’t want to deal with the annoying questions that the shelter asks before they will deign to allow you to adopt. So you march down to the local pet store and plunk your credit card down on the counter and take home that special “doggie in the window.”



BOOM – right there, a shelter dog will die. You could have found the perfect doggie companion with a little effort waiting for you in a shelter. But since you didn’t want to put that effort in, for whatever reason – a shelter dog will die.



But you aren’t done yet. Since the pet store made a successful sale, they will call up their broker and order another cute little puppy to put in the window. So the broker calls the puppy mill and orders some more dogs. And in turn, the puppy mill breeds another litter. For the sake of argument, let’s assume that the average dog litter is five puppies. That’s five more dogs into the pipeline. It doesn’t matter if these dogs get sold in pet stores, destroyed when the puppy mill can’t sell them all, or if they are turned in to a shelter somewhere. It is still five more dogs in the pipeline. And that means that five more shelter dogs will die.



So your conservative score on the cost of buying that pet store puppy is 5 DEAD DOGS. Congratulations, you killed five dogs today. But you are a good person. You saved your precious new friend from that nasty old pet store. So be sure to hold him tight tonight, and tell him that you love him so much that you KILLED 5 OTHER DOGS so that you could bring him home.



Isn’t this a fun game? Let’s try another example.



Your family pet is such a special dog. Your kids love her dearly. You’d like to have another one just like her, and you’d like the kids to learn the facts of life. So you decide to have a litter of puppies. Just one, because after all you are sensible folks. So you find a friend with a willing stud and it’s off to the races you go. And your precious pet produces a fine litter of 5 of the cutest puppies that you could ever imagine. They are just so precious! Now you aren’t bad people, you don’t want to make a profit off of this – you just wanted to teach your kids a lesson about life. So you decide to keep one of the puppies and give the other four away.



BOOM – that’s five more dogs in the pipeline, so five more shelter dogs must die. Quite the lesson for little Johnny and Suzy isn’t it? But wait, your score isn’t complete yet. It is time for the bonus round!



Your sister-in-law took one of those precious pups. And it turned out to be fine pet for their family. Now, two years later, she decides that since having a litter of puppies was such a fine lesson for Johnny and Suzy she would like her kids to have the same lesson. So they breed their family pet, producing another litter of 5 puppies. Wow! Bonus score for you! We’ll add them on to your score, since your sister-in-law didn’t buy a spayed dog from the shelter, we’ll credit you with her litter as well. Final score for you – 10 DEAD DOGS! Now that’s a lesson for Johnny and Suzy.



This game is just so much fun! When it comes time for your next dog you have a choice to make. You could deal with the hassle of rescuing a dog from a shelter, but it is such a hassle (and where do they get off with those ridiculous “adoption fees” anyways – you would be doing them a favor adopting one of those dogs) and they ask so many questions – OR – you can play the DEAD DOG game! You decide. Remember, it is your right to do what you want. You can support a puppy mill or a backyard breeder and KILL DOGS as a bonus. Or you can rescue a deserving dog, give him a loving home, and help stop the wholesale slaughter of 8 to 12 MILLION dogs a year. It is up to you. Which lesson do you want to teach?



Thanks for playing the DEAD DOG game!

Please spay and neuter your pets!!

Well then get in some full breed dogs at the pet shelters and I won't buy a dog. However, some shelters want to charge 300+ bucks for a mutt. Ain't no way in hell I'm going to pay for a mutt when I can get it for FREE!

[Alty]

Well then get in some full breed dogs at the pet shelters and I won't buy a dog. However, some shelters want to charge 300+ bucks for a mutt. Ain't no way in hell i'm gonna pay for a mutt when I can get it for FREE!

Well then, hopefully you'll get a nice free dog that costs you thousands in vet bills.

You have anger issues, get them under control or you won't last long here. :(

[Texie Studstill]

Ashabees has no anger issues.I have worked at those shelters and seen for myself the very thing she is talking about.If you have even a little bit of a heart then would be that mad and angry about it to.I have seen people come in and say " yeah well we got her when she was a puppy but in the past six years we got tired of her so you can have her cause we want a puppy now" and then leave like it was nothing. I watched that dog get put down because nobody wants a middle aged dog that somebody got rid of.so if anybody is not going to last long here it is you becase when people post these things you don't have to agree with them and you don't have to reply to them. If you don't like them then keep on looking but don't tell her to get in control of herself when that is what you need to do. This is directed to the last comment from Altenweg

[Alty]

Ashabees has no anger issues.I have worked at those shelters and seen for myself the very thing she is talking about.If you have even a little bit of a heart then would be that mad and angry about it to.I have seen people come in and say " yeah well we got her when she was a puppy but in the past six years we got tired of her so you can have her cause we want a puppy now" and then leave like it was nothing. I watched that dog get put down because nobody wants a middle aged dog that somebody got rid of.so if anybody is not going to last long here it is you becase when people post these things you don't have to agree with them and you don't have to reply to them. If you don't like them then keep on looking but don't tell her to get in control of herself when that is what you need to do. This is directed to the last comment from Altenweg

And another self righteous person that thinks they know everything.

If you don't like them then keep on looking but don't tell her to get in control of herself when that is what you need to do

Try following your own advice, you just told me to get control of myself while telling me I have no right to tell someone else the same thing. Hmmm, double standard.

Also, I've worked in animal shelters too. Do you even know what this entire discussion is about?

Maybe you should go to Ashbees other post where she yells at me because I care more about dogs then I do cows or chickens (funny, I never said a thing about cows or chickens at all).

If you worked in a shelter and saw the senseless slaughter of animals every day then why are you condoning puppy mills and backyard breeders? I would think that you'd be the first one to say that these practices should be outlawed because of the millions of unwanted dogs put to sleep each year.

I guess not. So then, I shouldn't yell at people who want to breed even though they aren't breeders. I shouldn't try to put a stop to puppymills and backyard breeders and the slaughter of millions of dogs.

I guess I've been told, but thankfully I won't listen. I only listen to people I respect.

[Alty]

Ashabees has no anger issues.I have worked at those shelters and seen for myself the very thing she is talking about.If you have even a little bit of a heart then would be that mad and angry about it to.I have seen people come in and say " yeah well we got her when she was a puppy but in the past six years we got tired of her so you can have her cause we want a puppy now" and then leave like it was nothing. I watched that dog get put down because nobody wants a middle aged dog that somebody got rid of.so if anybody is not going to last long here it is you becase when people post these things you don't have to agree with them and you don't have to reply to them. If you don't like them then keep on looking but don't tell her to get in control of herself when that is what you need to do. This is directed to the last comment from Altenweg

I just realized something.

You think that Ashbees post was the entire thing that was quoted, don't you?

This was Ashbees only post on this thread.

Well then get in some full breed dogs at the pet shelters and I won't buy a dog. However, some shelters want to charge 300+ bucks for a mutt. Ain't no way in hell I'm going to pay for a mutt when I can get it for FREE!

Do you get it now or are you still in the dark?

[Silverfoxkit]

It is terribly sad when the only two posts ashbee has made on this sight show blatant ignorance and complete indifference to the millions of deaths in animal shelters. People like this make me sick.

25% of dogs at shelters are pure bred and most shelters charge relatively low costs for adoption. Any fees for adoption are to go towards the medical costs spent to guarantee you are adopting a healthy animal although it may be for the best that this person keeps far away from shelters and dogs in general with the uncaring, thoughtless demeanor exhibited within the posts.

Am I angry about the number of good dogs that die every day due to people like this and backyard breeders, whom this individual also supports, most definitely, as should anyone that has even half a heart.

[shazamataz]

Wow...
All I can say is Go Alty and Silver! Right on!

[rex123]

You know you guys, I've alsways known that the pet population was overpopulated and that because of some owner's greed and need to breed, mnay pets die each year. I've know this but I've never actually witnessed it first hand, until the other day.

I've started a class, that allows us the students to go to any business we wish, I of course picked the vet.

The other day while I was at the vet, unexpectedly a cat had been brought in. He was in a trap. The lady had caught him wanting to bring him to the vet. He was a stray and he was TORN A PART there's no other way of saying. He was a young cat but his life had been terrible.

The vet called the lady and asked if she wanted them to start an IV and antibiotics, the lady said no that she didn't have the room for the cat anyway.

I watched them grab the bottle that said euthanasol, and inject it in the cat. At that moment my heart broke, and it took everything in my power to refrane from whisking that cat off the table and bringing him home with me and somehow getting the money to pay for vet bills.

As the cat sat there slowly fading away, there was a look in her eyes, I don't know what it was, it was kind of like she had given up a long time ago.

I NEVER want to see that look in another dog or cat's eyes again.

[shazamataz]

Wow Rex that's awful :(
I've never watched any of my pets when they get put to sleep. They put so much trust and loyalty into you, it breaks my heart to have to do it. But when there is something to prevent it, to save them, it makes it 100 times worse.

[Alty]

I've been in the position of being present during the death of many animals. That's why I no longer volunteer at the SPCA, I can't take it, it's too hard.

Most of the animals there are young, healthy, perfectly fine, there just isn't room or anyone willing to adopt them. There are too many cutsie wutsie puppy's being born, too many available that the shelter dogs are not even considered.

Oh if I had a farm, I'd adopt them all!

[Silverfoxkit]

That's the only reason that I have not become a veterinarian. I would not be able to put down pets that didn't need it and I wouldn't be able to handle even the ones that did. And if I failed to save a pet, even if it was beyond my control? Boy would I meltdown. I guess you could say I'm far too sensitive.

[Alty]

I'm the same way Silver. There's nothing harder then watching a loved one die. These animals aren't just animals, they're a part of my family. Heck, if I make eye contact for more then 1 minute I'm in love, it's not a good idea to step inside the SPCA. It's simply too hard to watch an animal get put down.

My hubby won't even let me go to the pet store to buy dog food etc. He knows that I can't help but wander into the pet section and get hooked.

It's a disease. :(

[Silverfoxkit]

Having to watch an animal die... Its one of the worse things in the world yet one of the best eye-openers. You will never think of it in the same way again. It becomes much more real then the written numbers you see of statistics. You can't push it away anymore. Tears are in my eyes right now from thinking about Ares. I loved him so much, I would do anything to bring him back if I could. No, you can never forget something like that. For days after we lost him I couldn't get the feeling out of my heart that he must be so lonely and scared in that box and he might be cold and he needed me. I just wanted to go get my baby and bring him back in with us where he belonged, even though I knew he was gone, my heart just couldn't believe it.

Its too bad dogpoundbrenda isn't still active on this site. She was wonderful. She was with me in a manner of speaking the whole time. She has a good soul and veterinary knowledge.

[Alty]

I know what you mean Silver.

I was 6 months pregnant when we had to put our 18 year old poodle down. It was way past time, we should have done it a lot sooner, how he suffered, it still haunts me.

I couldn't go to the vet that day, my mother refused to allow me, thought it would be too much for me to handle, especially because I was pregnant.

My mom went, held Silver (that was his name) while they injected the needle. She held him in her arms and felt the life drain out of him. She said it was the worst experience of her life, but also the best because she knew he was finally at peace.

We buried him in our yard, my dad made a cross, my mom planted flowers and put up pictures of him. One year later we learned that you had to have a permit to bury an animal in your yard. Never knew that. :eek:

I pity the person that tears up the yard, there's one dog, 2 rabbits, 2 budgies, a hamster and one unknown rodent that we found and tried to keep alive. :eek:

[Silverfoxkit]

Out here where I live there aren't any restrictions on pets. Not how many you can keep or where you can bury them. I couldn't imagine living in a place with such tough pet restrictions. Breeding restrictions sure, we need 'em, but I think a person ought to be able to keep as many animals as they can afford and take care of properly.

Since this was my early childhood home, gifted to us when I got married, there are more pets buried around here then I can remember. I personally have laid seven puppies, my own Ares and the little lost souls from the pet shop of horrors I mentioned before, one cat, and four gerbils.

[Alty]

I'm in the burbs, in the country there are less restrictions.

The reason that they have limits is because too many people around here wouldn't stop at what they can afford to care for.

Kilal came from a home with over 200 bunny's in it. The lady just let them all roam free and breed whenever they wanted. She lived in one big house of rabbit poo.

Over 30 of the rabbits had to be put down, they were either too sick or too feral to adopt out.

Our little Kilala is a troubel child, but she's coming around. We chose her because the staff said she had issues and would probably end up being euathanized. No way!

She's my sweetie, spunky, nasty when she wants to be, just a little bundle of attitude. She's the bunny version of me. :)

[rex123]

My dream since I was young was to be a veteranarian, if I could help just one pet then it would all be worth it.

When they euthanized that kitten though, I kept picturing it as one of my cats.

I still hope one day I will become a veteranarian. And I will do everything in my power to save any cat or dog in that position. Abuse, or just plain neglect animals, can not speak and need us to be their voice.

I can see me being one of the people holding meetings and stuff for the importance of spaying and neutering their pets.

[Alty]

Rex, don't give up on that dream, the world needs good people like you to offer vet care.

So many vets get into it for the money. We found a stray cat one time, badly beaten, needed care but we really couldn't afford to pay for it, we also couldn't keep her, hubby and the kids are allergic.

We took her to a local vet because our vet was on holidays. She wouldn't care for the cat without payment. I asked her "why the heck did you get into veterninary medicine if you have no intention of helping animals?" her response "I didn't do it to save the world, just those that can pay".

I was so mad. The worst part, since it wasn't our cat and she knew it, she made the decision to euthanize, she wouldn't give the cat back. Twenty twenty hind sight, I should have taken her the humane society.

The worst part. She sent us a bill 1 month later for the cost of euthanizing the cat. Ya, right, nice try, not going to happen! :(