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Feb 16, 2009, 01:07 PM
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 Originally Posted by Akoue
Noah had a boat with two of every creature aboard.
Don't forget all the terrestrial plants and fungi, not to mention aquatic organisms (fresh water fish, crawdads, water beetles, which would not survive sea water.
Pasteur did not go to church. He was an inveterate workoholic and I'm guessing he was in the lab on sundays. His wife helped...
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Feb 16, 2009, 01:08 PM
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 Originally Posted by Tj3
I am one of those people who is both a Christian and has a background in science, and I find no contradiction whatsoever between the two.
Hello again, Tj:
Hmmm. Either you don't understand science, or you don't understand religion. I'll opt for both.
excon
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Feb 16, 2009, 01:15 PM
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 Originally Posted by asking
Don't forget all the terrestrial plants and fungi, not to mention aquatic organisms (fresh water fish, crawdads, water beetles, which would not survive sea water.
Good point. I've often wondered about all the micro-organisms that Noah couldn't see.
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Feb 16, 2009, 02:47 PM
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 Originally Posted by Akoue
Good point. I've often wondered about all the micro-organisms that Noah couldn't see.
Well, at least in the case of bacteria, you'd only need one of each.
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Feb 16, 2009, 03:19 PM
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 Originally Posted by NeedKarma
You were there?
No, and neither were you, so I have to take the word of the person who was.
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Feb 16, 2009, 03:20 PM
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 Originally Posted by asking
This is not stated as a question. Nor is it an argument. So I will simply acknowledge it as an inaccurate statement about myself.
Well you did suggest that good scientists are by and large not Christians.
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Feb 16, 2009, 03:21 PM
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 Originally Posted by excon
Hmmm. Either you don't understand science, or you don't understand religion. I'll opt for both.
Some people discuss the issue - others go after the people.
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Feb 16, 2009, 03:34 PM
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 Originally Posted by Tj3
Well you did suggest that good scientists are by and large not Christians.
No. I cited a 1997 study that showed that most elite scientists today do not believe in God or immortality. They are not just "not Christians." They are not anything.
In particular, only 5.5% of elite biologists believe in God, and only 7.5% of elite physicists and astronomers believe in God.
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Feb 16, 2009, 03:39 PM
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 Originally Posted by asking
No. I cited a 1997 study that showed that most elite scientists today do not believe in God or immortality. They are not just "not Christians." They are not anything.
In particular, only 5.5% of elite biologists believe in God, and only 7.5% of elite physicists and astronomers believe in God.
That is a higher percentage than many surveys have given for belief in Biblical Christianity throughout the general population.
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Feb 16, 2009, 03:42 PM
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 Originally Posted by Tj3
That is a higher percentage than many surveys have given for belief in Biblical Christianity throughout the general population.
And what, precisely, is "Biblical Christianity", as opposed to, say, the non- or un-Biblical kind? I suspect you've stated it on a thread somewhere, but I forget what you said.
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Feb 16, 2009, 03:43 PM
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 Originally Posted by Akoue
And what, precisely, is "Biblical Christianity", as opposed to, say, the non- or un-Biblical kind? I suspect you've stated it on a thread somewhere, but I forget what you said.
Those who believe in Christianity as defined in the 66 books of the Bible.
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Feb 16, 2009, 03:45 PM
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 Originally Posted by asking
In particular, only 5.5% of elite biologists believe in God, and only 7.5% of elite physicists and astronomers believe in God.
 Originally Posted by Tj3
That is a higher percentage than many surveys have given for belief in Biblical Christianity throughout the general population.
I have never heard that only 5.5% (or 7.5%) of the general population believes in Biblical Christianity.
How is Biblical Christianity different from regular Christianity?
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Feb 16, 2009, 03:47 PM
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 Originally Posted by Tj3
Those who believe in Christianity as defined in the 66 books of the Bible.
That's not a terribly explanatory answer. What must such a person believe in order to count as an adherent of "Biblical Christianity"? I'm guessing many professing Christians would claim to believe in Christianity as defined in the Bible. But, of course, at least some of those people wouldn't count as "Biblical Christians" as you use the term. So what are the distinctive marks of someone who believes "in Christianity as defined in the 66 books of the Bible"?
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Feb 16, 2009, 03:49 PM
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Tom, by "Biblical Christianity," are you talking about biblical literalists such as yourself, as opposed to mainstream Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant Christians?
So you are saying that literalists make up 5-8% of the general population?
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Feb 16, 2009, 03:53 PM
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 Originally Posted by asking
I have never heard that only 5.5% (or 7.5%) of the general population believes in Biblical Christianity.
How is Biblical Christianity different from regular Christianity?
There is nothing called "regular" Christianity that I am aware of. But there are many churches which to one degree or another deny parts of the Bible, or add to it. Biblical Christianity accepts what the Bible says and accepts the Biblical mandate that it is to speak for itself.
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Feb 16, 2009, 03:54 PM
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 Originally Posted by Akoue
That's not a terribly explanatory answer. What must such a person believe in order to count as an adherent of "Biblical Christianity"? I'm guessing many professing Christians would claim to believe in Christianity as defined in the Bible. But, of course, at least some of those people wouldn't count as "Biblical Christians" as you use the term. So what are the distinctive marks of someone who believes "in Christianity as defined in the 66 books of the Bible"?
There is a book which would define it for you. It is called the Holy Bible. Check it out!
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Feb 16, 2009, 03:56 PM
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 Originally Posted by asking
Tom, by "Biblical Christianity," are you talking about biblical literalists such as yourself, as opposed to mainstream Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant Christians?
I am not sure what you mean by a Bible literalists. I have seen a number of people, including some on this board who have tried to apply that label and them claim that I said things that I don't believe and have never said. I have also never used that label myself.
This I cannot answer the second question because I am not sure as to what you mean by literalists.
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Feb 16, 2009, 03:58 PM
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 Originally Posted by Tj3
There is a book which would define it for you. It is called the Holy Bible. Check it out!
Hmm. Evasion. Why not just explain to anyone reading this thread what "Biblical Christianity" is, as you understand it. You use the locution an awful lot. If you want people to understand you, and not misrepresent your views and the things you say, seems explaining an expression you use with great frequency, and which is clearly very important you and central to the way you view the world, would be quite useful both to you and to others. I'm sure you have an answer to so basic a question. This might be a great opportunity to share it with the world.
By the way, I'm asking because I've heard different people explain it in different ways. I think it would be a useful contribution to the discussion if you explained your understanding of what "Biblical Christianity" means.
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Feb 16, 2009, 04:02 PM
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 Originally Posted by Akoue
Hmm. Evasion.
Hmmm... false accusations.
Why not just explain to anyone reading this thread what "Biblical Christianity" is, as you understand it.
If you do not understand what Christianity is, it would take much more than just posting a few lines on a post on a discussion forum. If you truly want to understand what the Bible teaches about Christianity, send me contact information, and I will see if I can get someone to contact you where you live who can spend the time to guide you through the essentials of the Christian faith as taught in scripture.
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Feb 16, 2009, 04:03 PM
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 Originally Posted by Tj3
I am not sure what you mean by a Bible literalists. I have seen a number of people, including some on this board who have tried to apply that label and them claim that i said things that I don't believe and have never said. I have also never used that label myself.
This I cannot answer the second question because I am not sure as to what you mean by literalists.
I mean, basically, someone who thinks the Earth is 6000 years old instead of 4.54 billion years old.
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