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    Dwall174 Posts: 26, Reputation: 1
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    Dec 7, 2008, 09:28 PM
    Vista to XP Pro.
    I just ordered a laptop that comes with Vista Home Premium pre-installed & I was told that it does have the drivers needed to install XP Pro.

    From what I understand the only way to run XP Pro is to first have Vista Business edition and then downgrade to XP Pro.

    So do I need to upgrade to Vista Business then downgrade to XP Pro?

    Also with the system configured like this will I be able to use both XP Pro & Vista Business? Or will I just be running XP Pro with a Vista license.

    The laptop is a Systemax Pursuit SR15
    Intel Core 2 Duo T5750, 2.0 GHz, 2 GB DDR2
    120 GB HDD, DVDRW, 15.4" WXGA
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    Dec 13, 2008, 09:59 PM
    What No Answers :(
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    Dec 13, 2008, 11:31 PM

    You can do a DIRECT downgrade from Vista Business to Windows XP Pro.

    If you have the drivers for Windows XP and a legitimate copy of the software you can install from, you can wipe the computer and do a clean install. Check with the manufacturer and make SURE those drivers are really available.
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    Dec 14, 2008, 06:41 AM
    Also another thing that I have noticed when doing downgrades on "vista only" laptops is that you have to turn off SCSI inside the bios or else you get a BSOD.
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    Dec 14, 2008, 09:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by JBeaucaire View Post
    Check with the manufacturer and make SURE those drivers are really available.
    I was told by the salesman that it can be switched over to XP-Pro & it the drivers are available!

    Is there a way I can make sure?
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    Dec 14, 2008, 10:17 AM
    What is the make and model of the laptop? If you go to the site they should be available for download.
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    Dec 14, 2008, 10:19 AM
    Sorry just saw the first post... can you take a screenshot of the device manager and upload to imageshack so we can see the devices please.
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    Dec 14, 2008, 03:35 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by theecho View Post
    sorry just saw the first post... can you take a screenshot of the device manager and upload to imageshack so we can see the devices please.
    I don't have the Laptop set-up to go on line yet! I'm changing my Internet service at the end of the month & I don't want to add extra software for just a few weeks. There's enough junk on it already from the Manufacture that I need to get rid of!

    I typed out what I think you may need!

    The laptop is a Systemax Pursuit SR15
    (Actual model # is SYS-D15TS-WL)
    Intel Core 2 Duo T5750, 2.0 GHz, 2 GB DDR2
    120 GB HDD, DVDRW, 15.4" WXGA

    Computer is ACPI x86- Based

    Display Adapter
    Mobile Intel ® 965 Express Chipset Family

    DVD/CD-ROM drives
    HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-T40N ATA Device

    IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers
    Intel ® ICH8M SATA AHCI Controller – 2829
    Intel ® ICH8M Ultra ATA Storage Controller – 2850

    Sound, Video and Game Controller
    Realtek High Definition Audio

    Storage Controllers
    Microsoft iSCSI Initiator
    O2Mirco Integrated MMC/SD Controller
    O2Mirco Integrated MS/MSPRO Controller

    System Devices
    ACPI Fixed Feature Button
    ACPI Lid
    ACPI Sleep Button
    ACPI Thermal Zone
    Direct memory access controller
    High Definition Audio Controller
    High precision event timer
    Intel ® 82801 PCI Bbidge – 2448
    Intel ® 82802 Firmware Hub Device
    Intel ® ICH8 Family PCI Express Root Port 1 – 283F
    Intel ® ICH8 Family PCI Express Root Port 2 - 2841
    Intel ® ICH8 Family PCI Express Root Port 3 - 2843
    Intel ® ICH8 Family PCI Express Root Port 4 – 2845
    Intel ® ICH8 Family SMBus Controller – 283E
    Intel ® ICH8M LPC Interface Controller – 2815
    Microsoft ACPI – Compliant Embedded Controller
    Microsoft ACPI – Compliant System
    Microsoft Composite Battery
    Microsoft System Management BIOS Driver
    Mobile Intel ® PM965/GM965/GL960 Express Processor to DRAM Controller – 2A00
    Numeric data processor
    PCI Bus
    Plug and Play Software Device Enumerator
    Programmable interrupt controller
    System CMOS/real time clock
    System speaker
    System timer
    UMBus Enumerator
    UMBus Root Bus Enumerator

    If there's any other info you need please let me know!
    Thanks Again!
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    Dec 14, 2008, 05:40 PM
    http://list.driverguide.com/list/company2296/

    Here are just some drivers that I found on a quick search. I will find more when I have more time.
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    Dec 14, 2008, 06:35 PM
    Wow that's a lot for just a quick search!
    How do I know which one I need??
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    Dec 14, 2008, 10:32 PM
    Well just match the names to the driver I suggest contacting the manufacturer for assistance in making a backup cd just in case you cannot find all the drivers for xp.
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    Dec 15, 2008, 09:02 AM
    Thanks
    At least I have a better idea of what I need to do!

    From what I’ve been told there’s a couple of programs I run that might not operate correctly on Vista without being updated.

    Either way I look at it, It sounds like I’ll just take it to someone that knows what they’re doing.

    Thanks again!
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    Dec 15, 2008, 09:05 AM
    Just curious why are you removing vista? I know there is a lot of talk about it being garbage but it really depends on what is in the system as to how it will run.
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    Dec 15, 2008, 09:17 AM
    I was curious so I visited the Systemax support site and it's terrible!
    Support For Your PC

    Unless you have a driver's CD of XP drivers then you'd be on your own it seems. It you have a good listing of all the hardware devices then that makes it easier. Having said that doing an XP downgrade should not cause any major problems, Windows Update often picks up the missing hardware drivers. If you have not used the system much since purchase then that makes it easier, there is an issue with some folder permissions on a Vista to XP downgrade.
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    Dec 15, 2008, 09:21 AM
    I had the same feeling... unfortunately its not setup like dells which is pretty nice.
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    Dec 15, 2008, 11:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by theecho View Post
    just curious why are you removing vista?
    I don’t really want to remove Vista!
    However I have been told that at least one of the programs I have ran on XP will not run correctly on Vista without modifying the way it’s installed & also having to turn off the UAC. Sounds to me like that messes with the security of Vista?

    I was hoping to be able set-up the laptop up to run either Vista or XP-Pro?
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    Dec 15, 2008, 11:37 AM
    Stay in Vista and try this: Make older programs run in this version of Windows - Windows Vista Help

    Personally I have turned off UAC but I'm a somewhat advanced Windows user/administrator
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    Dec 15, 2008, 12:05 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Personally I have turned off UAC but I'm a somewhat advanced Windows user/administrator
    Yea I'm not that familiar with computers! :confused:
    So I think I will have someone that knows what they’re doing get this laptop working the way I want it.

    Thanks Again!

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