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    #81

    Nov 21, 2008, 10:49 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by liz28 View Post
    excon, do you think the jury will be tinted especially since the tape is out?


    You didn't ask me, but do you mean will the potential jury pool be tainted?

    I can't imagine this case can now be tried anywhere - but that was said about OJ and his various misadventures and the Courts WERE able to empanel a jury.

    Another reason the US should consider trained, professional jurors - but that's another subject.
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    Nov 21, 2008, 01:24 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by classyT View Post
    I go a step further. I think it is WRONG to even have him in a juvenile detention center. He is EIGHT!!! A eight year old boy needs his mother..they still sleep with teddy bears. He is messed up. Why mess him up further? He needs his MOTHER and psycolgical HELP.

    Classy, I do agree, but, there has to be a reason that the mother didn't get custody of her son and really isn't a large part of his life.

    He needs someone, I'm just not sure it's his mother that he needs.
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    Nov 21, 2008, 01:26 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    Classy, I do agree, but, there has to be a reason that the mother didn't get custody of her son and really isn't a large part of his life.

    He needs someone, I'm just not sure it's his mother that he needs.


    Exactly and I did see his mother will be allowed to spend Thanksgiving with the child - otherwise the news reports sort of skip over the mother/son relationship.
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    Nov 21, 2008, 01:29 PM

    I wish we knew more about their relationship, it might help to better understand why he did this, if he even did.

    For once I think we have to push the legal system aside and look at the person being accused of this crime.

    They have a chance to turn this around, to make this child better. If he gets the help he needs, the love he needs, the understanding, then he may just turn into a productive member of this world. If they put him in jail, at the age of 8, well, I can't see him ever turning that around.

    This case should be about what's right, not what's wrong.
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    Nov 21, 2008, 02:52 PM

    I have been listening to this interogation. It really sounds to me that this kid was trying his very best to say what he thought they wanted to hear.
    Like when he said he shot his dad because he thought he was suffereing. The ladies seem to like that so he repeated it over and over.

    I am not sure what to think. I have an 8 year old, I can not even imagine it. When she is pushed - she will say what she thinks you want to hear. Is that happening here - to an extreme?
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    Nov 21, 2008, 03:56 PM

    I agree with you NowWhat. When my son was 8 I could convince him that there was a purple cow in the yard, and he'd repeat it to anyone. Children that age are easily coerced into saying what they think we want to hear.
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    Nov 22, 2008, 11:39 PM

    Maybe they pushed him to say that, so it wouldn't seem so cold-blooded.
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    Nov 23, 2008, 08:32 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Altenweg View Post
    I agree with you NowWhat. When my son was 8 I could convince him that there was a purple cow in the yard, and he'd repeat it to anyone. Children that age are easily coerced into saying what they think we want to hear.


    For that matter adults falsely confess to the Police all the time. Interrogation is a frightening experience.
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    Nov 23, 2008, 01:25 PM

    Exactly Judy. If it's frightening for an adult, imagine how it must feel for a child.

    Really, I just want to take that little boy in and give him the love and structure he so obviously needs. I really don't think he did it, but if he did, I don't think he realized that it was wrong. That in itself says a lot about his upbringing.

    Blame the parents, not the child, his life is an unwritten book, this could still turn out with a happy ending, if he's given half a chance.

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