[dave146]

Chery... I have nothing against Windows XP (or even older), but Vistas are... terrible.

[magprob]

YouTube - Messin' With Sasquatch, Flaming Bag - Internet Only Version

[rpg219]

Yummmm... what a thing to wake up to... thanks mag ;) :)

[Chery]

YouTube - Messin' With Sasquatch, Flaming Bag - Internet Only Version

Don't we just all wish we could throw some real good stuff at some two-legged jerks. I loved it, thanks, Mag.

[magprob]

Among the essays included in Wrestling With Zion is a talk given as the Second Annual Holocaust Lecture at the Center for American and Jewish Studies and the George W. Truett seminary at Baylor University on April 8, 2002 by Sara Roy, senior research scholar at Harvard University's Center for Middle East Studies, and the daughter of Holocaust survivors.

“As with the Holocaust,” Roy declared, “I tried to remember my very first encounter with the occupation. One of my earliest encounters involved a group of Israeli soldiers, an old Palestinian man, and his donkey. Standing on a street with some Palestinian friends, I noticed an elderly Palestinian walking down the street, leading his donkey. A small child no more than three or four years old, clearly his grandson, was with him. Some Israeli soldiers standing nearby went up to the old man and stopped him. One soldier ambled over to the donkey and pried open its mouth. 'Old man,' he asked, 'why are your donkey's teeth so yellow? Why aren't they white? Don't you brush your donkey's teeth?' The old Palestinian was mortified, the little boy visibly upset. The soldier repeated his question, yelling this time, while other soldiers laughed. The child began to cry and the old man just stood there silently, humiliated. The scene repeated itself while a crowd gathered. The soldier then ordered the old man to stand behind the donkey and demanded that he kiss the animal's behind. At first, the old man refused but as the soldier screamed at him and his grandson became hysterical, he bent down and did it. The soldiers laughed and walked away. They had achieved their goal: to humiliate him and those around him. We all stood there in silence, ashamed to look at each other, hearing nothing but the uncontrollable sobs of the little boy. The old man did not move for what seemed like a very long time. He just stood there, demeaned and destroyed.”

Stunned Disbelief
Recalled Roy: “I stood there too, in stunned disbelief. I immediately thought of the stories my parents had told me of how Jews had been treated by the Nazis in the l930s, before the ghettos and death camps, of how Jews would be forced to clean sidewalks with toothbrushes and have their beards cut off in public. What happened to the old man was absolutely equivalent in principle, intent and impact: to humiliate and dehumanize. In this instance, there was no difference between the German soldier and the Israeli one. Throughout the summer of l985, I saw similar incidents: young Palestinian men being forced by Israeli soldiers to bark like dogs on their hands and knees or dance in the streets... In this critical respect my first encounter with the occupation was the same as my first encounter with the Holocaust, with the number on my father's arm. It spoke the same message: the denial of one's humanity.”

[startover22]

Mag... thanks for that post.

[magprob]

NEW School prayer :


Now I sit me down in school
Where praying is against the rule
For this great nation under God
Finds mention of Him very odd.

If Scripture now the class recites,
It violates the Bill of Rights.
And anytime my head I bow
Becomes a Federal matter now.

Our hair can be purple, orange or green,
That's no offense; it's a freedom scene.
The law is specific, the law is precise.
Prayers spoken aloud are a serious vice.

For praying in a public hall
Might offend someone with no faith at all.
In silence alone we must meditate,
God's name is prohibited by the state.

We're allowed to cuss and dress like freaks,
And pierce our noses, tongues and cheeks..
They've outlawed guns, but FIRST the Bible.
To quote the Good Book makes me liable.

We can elect a pregnant Senior Queen,
And the 'unwed daddy,' our Senior King.
It's 'inappropriate' to teach right from wrong,
We're taught that such 'judgments' do not belong.

We can get our condoms and birth controls,
Study witchcraft, vampires and totem poles.
But the Ten Commandments are not allowed,
No word of God must reach this crowd.

It's scary here I must confess,
When chaos reigns the school's a mess.
So, Lord, this silent plea I make:
Should I be shot; My soul please take!
Amen

Jesus said,
'If you are ashamed of me,
I will be ashamed of you before my Father.'

[startover22]

I have seen that before.
If you are a God loving soul, all you need to do is let the people make the choices that God let you be free to make. We all have a choice. :)

[spyderglass]

I didn't keep out,
I opened Pandora's box with this thread :)

[magprob]

This is a private post but since you are here that will be five bucks... cash... now!
Wait a minute, the show is over.
Well, that concludes our Show, thank you for coming, please drive safely and good night.

[magprob]

What? There's more? Oh.
Ok, that will be 5 bucks... cash.
Pay up spyder person.

[magprob]

1. Before the beginning was the Nonexistent Chao, balanced in Oblivion by the Perfect Counterpushpull of the Hodge and the Podge.

2. Whereupon, by an Act of Happenstance, the Hodge began gradually to overpower the Podge -- and the Primal Chaos thereby came to be.

3. So in the beginning was the Primal Chaos, balanced on the Edge of Oblivion by the Perfect Counterpullpush of the Podge and the Hodge.

4. Whereupon, by the Law of Negative Reversal,** the Podge swiftly underpowered the Hodge and Everything broke loose.

5. And therein emerged the Active Force of Discord, the Subtle Manifestation of the Nonexistent Chao, to guide Everything along the Path back to Oblivion - that it might not become lost among Precepts of Order in the Region of Thud.

6. Forasmuch as it was Active, the Force of Discord entered the State of Confusion, wherein It copulated with the Queen and begat ERIS, Our Lady of Discord and Gross Manifestation of the Nonexistent Chao.

7. And under Eris Confusion became established, and was hence called Bureaucracy; while over Bureaucracy Eris became established, and was hence called Discordia.

8. By the by it came to pass that the Establishment of Bureaucracy perished in a paper shortage.

9. Thus it was, in accord with the Law of Laws.

[Chery]

I'll be back for a little more to say later...
But for now,
Unfortunately,
History Repeats Itself.

No matter how intelligent we think we are... some never learn and even pass on this poison in mother's milk.


I consider myself lucky in a way, because I know I don't have to stay here too much longer... it's off to bigger and better things.. I hope.

[startover22]

Good to see you Chery mu lovely lady;)

Mag... gosh be nice, just cause you were grumpy with the others, doesn't mean you should be grumpy with someone who didn't do anything;) Ohhh gosh I just sounded like a mother...

Good morning;) YouTube - Willie Nelson and Merle Haggard...Pancho and Lefty

[CaptainRich]

Finally, Mag!
Something that makes sense! Kudos with the Discordia...

[magprob]

Hey Captn,
Don't you just love it?
I love Robert Anton Wilson also.

[spyderglass]

I don't have five dollars
But I have a golden apple :)

[magprob]

I'll take it. Thank you.

[startover22]

Finally, Mag!
Something that makes sense! Kudos with the Discordia....

Did you just tell Mag that he makes sense? Captain... how could you?
:pHey:p

[magprob]

Did you just tell Mag that he makes sense? Captain...how could you?
:pHey:p

See! We're not all just another circuit in the matrix. All in all, we're not all just another brick in the wall.