[speechlesstx]

I think it’s time for Jack Murtha to go. You know, the guy that called 7 innocent soldiers cold-blooded murderers, the guy that wanted to slow-bleed our troops out of Iraq, the guy that called his constituents first racists and then rednecks, and now vows not to lose to a “carpetbagger from Virginia.”

“[A] carpetbagger from Virginia is going to represent a heavily Democratic district? No way. No G** d*** way."

This “carpetbagger” he’s running against Lt. Col. (Ret.) William Russell, whose “home” addresses spanned some eleven states and seven countries” during his 28 years of service to our country in the army and reserves, who served “six tours in hostile fire zones” including Operation Desert Storm, Kosovo and Operation Iraqi Freedom, and helped in the rescue efforts when he and his wife were in the Pentagon on 9/11. Please Pennsylvania, send this disgrace packing.

[BABRAM]

I think it’s time for Jack Murtha to go...the guy that wanted to "slow-bleed our troops out of Iraq"

Ironically, in part, what you say here about Murtha I've been saying about Dubya ever since you re-elected him in 2004.

[speechlesstx]

Ironically, in part, what you say here about Murtha I've been saying about Dubya ever since you re-elected him in 2004.

I don't recall Bush ever calling his constituents racists, rednecks, demeaning the troops that serve honorably and calling to "slow-bleed" them out of Iraq. This is about Murtha, not Bush - who in case you haven't figured it out yet, will be gone in a few months regardless. Try to stay on topic here.

[BABRAM]

I don't recall Bush ever calling his constituents racists, rednecks, demeaning the troops that serve honorably and calling to "slow-bleed" them out of Iraq. This is about Murtha, not Bush - who in case you haven't figured it out yet, will be gone in a few months regardless. Try to stay on topic here.

I've noticed that your little pool is a bit shallow for most of us on this board. Murtha was a grade "A" jack@$$ for not having the tact needed to get across a point using some dignity. Whoop-tee-do! However, Murtha, didn't get our nation into this quagmire. That would be the clown you voted for twice, "Dubya." And to give you a heads up, that clown that you voted for twice will be leaving the White House, but the consequence of his actions will long linger on. ;)

Casualties in Iraq - 2008

[speechlesstx]

I've noticed that your little pool is a bit shallow for most of us on this board. Murtha was a grade "A" jack@$$ for not using the tact needed to get across a point. Whoop-tee-do! However, Murtha, didn't get our nation into this quagmire. That would be the clown you voted for twice, "Dubya." And to give you a heads up, that clown that you voted for twice will be leaving the White House, but the consequence of his actions will long linger on. ;)

I see you still can’t keep from swerving entirely away from the topic, which is Murtha, who slanders our troops and his opponent and calls his constituents racists and rednecks. Bush is not running for re-election, Murtha is.

[BABRAM]

Tex, I didn't know you moved to Pennsylvania?? John Murtha made his uncouth statement back in 2007 and yet just about a week ago he received the Public Policy Award from the Marshall Legacy Institute. That figures that you're now concerned with Murtha, but it was OK for you to vote Dubya not just once, but twice? That sales like another McCain disasterious campaign plan. BTW it's many of Dubya's policies that are up for re-election and are trying to survive vicariously through John McCain.

[tomder55]

A carpet bagger from Virginia ? Does ABSCAM JACK mean from the time Russell served in the Pentagon ?

[speechlesstx]

Tex, I didn't know you moved to Pennsylvania???

I figure if Europeans and Canadians can push for Obama I can have a preference for someone in another state that has an effect on my country.

[Skell]

Yeah get rid of him. He's saying some stupid things. Probably been hanging around with all the other old rich white guys too long who look down on people. But who really cares Steve?

[BABRAM]

I figure if Europeans and Canadians can push for Obama I can have a preference for someone in another state that has an effect on my country.

They have no choice. Our US govt is always in someone else's backyard.

[speechlesstx]

They have no choice. Our US govt is always in someone else's backyard.

Oh I forgot, we invaded Canada last week didn't we?

[speechlesstx]

Yeah get rid of him. He's saying some stupid things. Probably been hanging around with all the other old rich white guys too long who look down on people. But who really cares Steve?

Apparently the people he's unfairly and irresponsibly smeared. Once again Skell, a Democrat shows his true colors and gets a pass but if a Republican had said what he did he would be slammed in the media relentlessly... just as McCain would be slammed relentlessly if he had been caught partying with the kind of radicals Obama did. I'd like to see the same standards apply to both sides, especially here since Murtha is showing himself to be the real "redneck" in this story.

[BABRAM]

Oh I forgot, we invaded Canada last week didn't we?

We invade Canada everyday. You didn't know that??

[excon]

just as McCain would be slammed relentlessly if he had been caught partying with the kind of radicals Obama did. I'd like to see the same standards apply to both sides, especially here since Murtha is showing himself to be the real "redneck" in this story.

Hello Steve:

Couple things... McCain is friends with G. Gordon Liddy - a crook. Now, I know that YOU don't think he's crook, so it's OK for McCain to pal around with him.

But, he IS a crook, and if I want to paint McCain with THAT brush, I'd be correct. So, the same standards ARE being imposed on both sides. You just don't like it.

Murtha isn't politically correct. I like that - don't you? Wasn't there a post about political correct speech being something some liberal dreamed up?? So, I happen to like Murtha's truth. The people he's talking about ARE racists and red necks. Would you prefer your congressmen to lie??

excon

[tomder55]

He is also a smear merchant corruptocrat .For that he has to go.

[speechlesstx]

Hello Steve:

Couple things... McCain is friends with G. Gordon Liddy - a crook. Now, I know that YOU don't think he's crook, so it's OK for McCain to pal around with him.

But, he IS a crook, and if I want to paint McCain with THAT brush, I'd be correct. So, the same standards ARE being imposed on both sides. You just don't like it.

I never said Liddy wasn’t a crook, I said he had served his time and Carter commuted his sentence. I would think you might understand and give ex-cons that have paid the penalty and kept their nose clean a break. Ayers on the other hand got off on a technicality said he didn’t do enough, makes no apology for his terrorist acts and won’t say he wouldn’t do it again. How was the same standard applied to McCain/Hagee and Obama/Wright? George “Macaca” Allen and Jack “racist/redneck/carpetbagger/cold-blooded murder” Murtha?

Murtha isn't politically correct. I like that - don't you? Wasn't there a post about political correct speech being something some liberal dreamed up?? So, I happen to like Murtha's truth. The people he's talking about ARE racists and red necks. Would you prefer your congressmen to lie??

Well, if that’s the standard you should love “f*** yourself” Cheney and John “horses**t” McCain.

[Skell]

Apparently the people he's unfairly and irresponsibly smeared. Once again Skell, a Democrat shows his true colors and gets a pass but if a Republican had said what he did he would be slammed in the media relentlessly...just as McCain would be slammed relentlessly if he had been caught partying with the kind of radicals Obama did. I'd like to see the same standards apply to both sides, especially here since Murtha is showing himself to be the real "redneck" in this story.

Ive been watching the news. He has copped it left, right and centre. You knew about it. Its up to the people to decide now.

I think you guys overplay the "unfair biased media" card way too much.

[speechlesstx]

Ive been watching the news. He has copped it left, right and centre. You knew about it. Its up to the people to decide now.

I think you guys overplay the "unfair biased media" card way too much.

Ya think? Try this...

Media's Presidential Bias and Decline
Columnist Michael Malone Looks at Slanted Election Coverage and the Reasons
Column By MICHAEL S. MALONE

Oct. 24, 2008 —

The traditional media are playing a very, very dangerous game -- with their readers, with the Constitution and with their own fates.

The sheer bias in the print and television coverage of this election campaign is not just bewildering, but appalling. And over the last few months I've found myself slowly moving from shaking my head at the obvious one-sided reporting, to actually shouting at the screen of my television and my laptop computer.

But worst of all, for the last couple weeks, I've begun -- for the first time in my adult life -- to be embarrassed to admit what I do for a living. A few days ago, when asked by a new acquaintance what I did for a living, I replied that I was "a writer," because I couldn't bring myself to admit to a stranger that I'm a journalist.

You need to understand how painful this is for me. I am one of those people who truly bleeds ink when I'm cut. I am a fourth-generation newspaperman. As family history tells it, my great-grandfather was a newspaper editor in Abilene, Kan. during the last of the cowboy days, then moved to Oregon to help start the Oregon Journal (now the Oregonian).

My hard-living -- and when I knew her, scary -- grandmother was one of the first women reporters for the Los Angeles Times. And my father, though profoundly dyslexic, followed a long career in intelligence to finish his life (thanks to word processors and spellcheckers) as a very successful freelance writer. I've spent 30 years in every part of journalism, from beat reporter to magazine editor. And my oldest son, following in the family business, so to speak, earned his first national byline before he earned his drivers license.

So, when I say I'm deeply ashamed right now to be called a "journalist," you can imagine just how deep that cuts into my soul.

Or this...

Canvassing Campaign Media: An Analysis of Time, Tone and Topics

October 22, 2008

The media coverage of the race for president has not so much cast Barack Obama in a favorable light as it has portrayed John McCain in a substantially negative one, according to a new study of the media since the two national political conventions ended.

Press treatment of Obama has been somewhat more positive than negative, but not markedly so.

But coverage of McCain has been heavily unfavorable -- and has become more so over time. In the six weeks following the conventions through the final debate, unfavorable stories about McCain outweighed favorable ones by a factor of more than three-to-one -- the most unfavorable of all four candidates -- according to the study by the Pew Research Center's Project for Excellence in Journalism.

For Obama during this period, just over a third of the stories were clearly positive in tone (36%), while a similar number (35%) were neutral or mixed. A smaller number (29%) were negative.

For McCain, by comparison, nearly six-in-ten stories studied were decidedly negative in nature (57%), while fewer than two-in-ten (14%) were positive.

If ever we were justified it's now.

[Skell]

Michael Malone. Isn't he the tech reporter?

[speechlesstx]

To be honest I don't know, but if ABC promoted it there must be something to it. What about the Pew Research study?