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    #101

    Oct 12, 2008, 03:54 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by BABRAM View Post
    It's a very simple request, but can you fulfill it?
    What's the matter Bobby, can't keep up with a high school dropout?
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    #102

    Oct 12, 2008, 12:36 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    What if he keeps company with a lot of folks, from many walks of life?????

    The weird thing is that no one seems to have room for the fact that no matter what side your on, we are all on the same side.

    Even McCain has said that even though he, and Obama, disagree on fundamentals, he was a good, and decent man. Whoa, you don't believe your own guy???
    Not on that point, I don't.

    What I do think is that McCain will appoint judges who hold to the original intent of the Constitution, whereas I think Obama would appoint judges who see the Constitution as a "living document" to be edited at their whim.
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    Oct 12, 2008, 12:40 PM
    I hope your right, that's why Obama has my vote, its time to overcome the conservative fear of CHANGE!!

    I like McCain though, I do, just not as a president. I think we need judges that acknowledge MANY things have changed, since they wrote the constitution.
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    #104

    Oct 12, 2008, 12:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I hope your right, thats why Obama has my vote, its time to overcome the conservative fear of CHANGE!!!!

    I like McCain though, I do, just not as a president. I think we need judges that acknowledge MANY things have changed, since they wrote the constitution.
    We have a way to do that. It's called amendment. It is a process where MANY people have to agree that it needs to be changed. It is not supposed to be at the decision of 5 people!

    So, are there any parts of the FIRST 10 AMENDMENTS that you don't like?
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    Oct 12, 2008, 01:34 PM
    Gee, Did I misunderstand, or what? As you say there is a process to make amendments, to the constitution, so why are you worried about,
    who see the Constitution as a "living document" to be edited at their whim.
    Don't quite know what you mean on that one. I didn't know the Constitution could be edited. So clarify, please.

    Before an amendment can take effect, it must be proposed to the states by a two-thirds vote of both houses of Congress, and ratified by three-quarters of the states.

    So, are there any parts of the FIRST 10 AMENDMENTS that you don't like?
    No, but deciding who is president still sticks in my craw, especially given the debacle of the last 8 years.
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    #106

    Oct 12, 2008, 02:28 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Galveston1 View Post
    Not on that point, I don't.

    What I do think is that McCain will appoint judges who hold to the original intent of the Constitution, whereas I think Obama would appoint judges who see the Constitution as a "living document" to be edited at their whim.
    Um... what's the difference between upholding the constitution to it's original "intent" (which means the people interpreting it say, "Well, you see, what they mean is this..." and editing it like it's a living document?

    When we argue about "intent" we get issues like marriage between one man and one woman. The constitution doesn't spell that out - that's what the interpreters have decided it intended.

    Hm... a conundrum, perhaps?

    PS: I know of another document which causes controversy over original "intent", "living document" and "actual wording" too! Bonus points for whoever can name it! :D
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    Oct 12, 2008, 03:32 PM

    If you mean the bible, then I have to ask which one??
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    #108

    Oct 12, 2008, 05:29 PM

    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    What's the matter Bobby, can't keep up with a high school dropout?
    Correct. I'd have to lower my aptitude to that of Jr. High level. You should had finished High School, Stevie. You did miss a lot! And especially when it comes to reading comprehension. Where is the proof of your statement?? You claimed in reference to Obama that I "admit any honor he receives is "undue."" I was hoping you would prove your statement factually by showing me (and the board) where I said such. Why did you lie??
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    #109

    Oct 12, 2008, 06:09 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    If you mean the bible, then I have to ask which one???
    *DING DING* You get the bonus points! :)

    It's far too in-depth of a topic (and waaaayy off topic) to go into here. But congrats on your bonus points; I'd give you a greenine, if I could! :D
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    #110

    Oct 12, 2008, 08:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by BABRAM View Post
    Correct. I'd have to lower my aptitude to that of Jr. High level. You should had finished High School, Stevie. You did miss a lot! And especially when it comes to reading comprehension. Where is the proof of your statement??? You claimed in reference to Obama that I "admit any honor he receives is "undue."" I was hoping you would prove your statement factually by showing me (and the board) where I said such. Why did you lie???
    Poor thing, you just can't stand it when someone turns the table on you. The "master misleader" gets a taste of his own medicine and comes unhinged. You've revealed a lot lately, Bobby, I now understand why you've abandoned substance for personal attacks. You can't best a lowly high school dropout so you turn to insults to soothe your overdeveloped ego. What a shame.

    "Undue" was your word Bobby, you'll find it if you look... unlike that crap you completely made up about me and Farrakhan. And with that, it's your game now... I have better things to do than waste my time on your personal attacks and hissy fits.
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    #111

    Oct 12, 2008, 08:37 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    "Undue" was your word Bobby, you'll find it if you look...unlike that crap you completely made up about me and Farrakhan. And with that, it's your game now...I have better things to do than waste my time on your personal attacks and hissy fits.
    Steven, why are you wimping out?? I'm only quoting what you stated. You claimed in reference to Obama that I "admit any honor he receives is "undue."" I just wanted to know where it is, that I ever said such.
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    Oct 16, 2008, 11:09 AM

    We are ALL Jesus!!

    :-P

    Now lets get on with it already eh?

    WE THE PEOPLE AND THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION 2 - Second Revolution of the United States of America

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