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    Oct 3, 2008, 10:20 AM
    Toilet leak at supply tube.
    My toilet has been leaking where the supply tube connects to the tank for a while now, and recently its getting worse and worse.

    I tried tightening and loosening it, but neither seems to fix the problem. I finally just bought a new connector hose, but I can't see how to disconnect the old hose from the water supply itself.

    Here is a picture of my problem:

    I am unable to move / lift heavy things, so if disconnecting that will require such, I'll just have to call a plumber.
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    Oct 3, 2008, 10:59 AM
    I can't see how to disconnect the old hose from the water supply itself.
    The supply's connected to the angle stop with a 1/4" compression nut and ferrule,(see image) Back the nut off counterclockwise and pull it up. However, Your tank leak sounds like it has been crossthreaded. This happens when the threads are plastic. If iot doesn't leak at the angle stop there's no reason for you to disconnect it. Simply take the tank connection apart and check the male threads for a crossthread. Get the connection started correctly and your leak goes bye-bye. Good luck, Tom
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    Oct 3, 2008, 11:06 AM

    Hi Tom, thanks for the answer.

    I just tried completely unscrewing it and putting it back on, and the leak continues to well up from inside where it connects and drips out once the water is turned back on. Any other suggestions as to the cause / solution?
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    Oct 3, 2008, 11:10 AM

    If the leak is only from the top plastic nut area, check for cracks if none found you can replace the gasket, just loosen the nut disconnect it from the fill valve replace the gasket which comes with new connector line install, install the nut tightened it and check for leak hope the problem will be fixed, good luck.

    John

    The best solution is to replace the whole line and you will be OK, Thanks.

    John
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    Oct 3, 2008, 11:38 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by afaroo View Post
    If the leak is only from the top plastic nut area, check for cracks if none found you can replace the gasket, just loosen the nut disconnect it from the fill valve replace the gasket which comes with new connector line install, install the nut tightened it and check for leak hope the problem will be fixed, good luck.

    John

    The best solution is to replace the whole line and you will be OK, Thanks.

    John
    John,
    The problem with that solution is if there's a cross thread then replacing the gasket won't help. My bet is that his leak won't stop until he replaces both the supply AND the ballcock. Regards, tom
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    Oct 3, 2008, 12:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by speedball1 View Post
    John,
    The problem with that solution is if there's a cross thread then replacing the gasket won't help. My bet is that his leak won't stop until he replaces both the supply AND the ballcock. Regards, tom

    Tom,

    I agree with you 100% if it is cross threaded the only solution is to replace the supply line
    And the ballcock, but he didn't mention any thing about cross thread, the only thing I would say which I have seen the plastic nuts cracked and also seen the gaskets worn out.
    Antother thing I see on his picture looks like the angle valve and the supply line one piece may be I am wron if that is the case then he wuld need to replace the angle valve, the supply line and the fill valve, Thanks,

    Regards,
    John
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    Oct 3, 2008, 05:36 PM

    Before you do anything: tighten up the black ballcock nut 1/2 turn... See if that helps

    BTW: that angle stop valve and corrugated water supply is ONE PIECE. You cannot separate them. If you want to replace the water supply - than you will have to replace angle stop as well...
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    Oct 3, 2008, 05:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Milo Dolezal View Post
    Before you do anything: tighten up the black ballcock nut 1/2 turn.... See if that helps

    BTW: that angle stop valve and corrugated water supply is ONE PIECE. You cannot separate them. If you want to replace the water supply - than you will have to replace angle stop as well.....
    Yes Milo you are correct as I said in post #6, and I agree with you with tightening the fill valve nut, Thanks.

    Regards,
    John
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    Oct 3, 2008, 06:03 PM

    I do surely hope that the person that invented the one piece stop-supply is bankrupt. Just my thought for the day. Thanks guys, now my brain hurts.
    Now back to the problem at hand. If it were a cross thread, it probably would have leaked from day one. I would still try to tighten the ball cock mounting nut first. If this proves unsuccessful, you need to replace the stop and supply line, and yes possibley your ballcock(fillvalve).
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    Oct 3, 2008, 06:12 PM

    The angle stop with permanently attached water supply is widely used in new construction applications because it saves about $1.00 in purchase costs. It will cost you at least $100.00 L&M in my area to upgrade it to two-piece set up. We never use them. And the company that makes them? They are still in business making killing ! It is all about "bottom line", I guess...
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    Oct 3, 2008, 06:37 PM

    Always good to save a buck when it will cost the homeowner hundreds of dollars in future maintenance. LOL. I live in a relatively small community. Therefore I realize that I will most likley be the one that has to work on things such as this. Not only do I want to make it easier on myself, but to make it easier on the homeowners pocketbook.
    Milo are you saying you never use the one piece or two piece?

    As far as I'm concernd, the one piece should be outlawed
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    Oct 4, 2008, 05:18 AM
    I learn something new from you guys all the time. A angle stop without a supply connection? First time I've ever heard of that. What a dumb idea! If he wished to change it out for a regular angle stop he could just reuse the 1/2" compression nut and ferrule. But if the male threads on the ballcock were crossed he would still be left with a leak. I know! Been there! Done that! Thanks again for the lesson guys. Tom
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    Oct 4, 2008, 05:45 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by mygirlsdad77 View Post
    Always good to save a buck when it will cost the homeowner hundreds of dollars in future maintenance. LOL. I live in a relatively small community. Therefore i realize that i will most likley be the one that has to work on things such as this. Not only do i want to make it easier on myself, but to make it easier on the homeowners pocketbook.
    Milo are you saying you never use the one piece or two piece?

    As far as im concernd, the one piece should be outlawed
    Sorry about not making myself clear: We use two piece set up.

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