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Feb 21, 2008, 04:14 PM
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Sorry for your pain. Read different stories.
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Feb 21, 2008, 04:33 PM
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NK, are you saying that Canada's health care is better than in the UK? Over there, I hear, you can die waiting for emergency surgery. What light can you folks in UK shed on this? Personally, I don't think socialism can work in the long run. Remember that the USSR simply collapsed from within. When too many get on the freebe wagon, it rolls to a stop.
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Feb 21, 2008, 04:46 PM
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The Soviet intervention in Afghanistan and the Chernobyl disaster in 1986 added impetus to Gorbachev's glasnost and perestroika reforms, which eventually spiraled out of control and caused the Soviet system to collapse….not because of social services.
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Feb 21, 2008, 05:09 PM
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Stolen Golden Moments in time
I love it when the Brits and Canadians wax self-righteous about their socialized medicine disaster and hold it up as a model for Americans.
The fact is, America provides far better medical services which is why American hospitals attract patients from around the world who have socialized medicine available right outside their own doors.
And again, this same health care is available to children and the indigent without cost, whether it is picked up by the state or federal government, a charity, or written off by the hospital. It is not a great system and it needs repair. But to accuse it of not taking care of the indigent is flat-out false.
And again, we know how the Brits and Canadians take care of the indigent. They queue them up and let them die while waiting
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Feb 21, 2008, 05:09 PM
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Part of the issue is that the US does not a social program for free health care, First we have medicaid that is poorly administrated allowing the poor to run into a ER in the evening for a sore thoat and we the public pay that bill.
Next we only have to look at the Medicare program to see that government health care in the US is a disaster, lately the government has finallly allowed private companies to start doing the medicare program.
But for the really poor, they are seen in government funded hospitals all the time in the US, And the tax payer and all of us are paying that bill.
We need to first limit the awards for malpractice and stop all of the unneeded tests that add costs. And I have no problem with a entry level health care esp when it will limit unneeded visists to the ER.
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Feb 21, 2008, 06:52 PM
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When Canada is able to keep doctors there from wanting to come to the United States, then I'll believe their health care system might be better... I'm not saying it is worse, but that it has plenty of problems too.
Based on a previous post, research in West Virginia must be when you look for something a second time in places where you hope to find what you are looking for. Anything else that is found is not wanted and therefore ignored? "We searched the holler looking, and liked what we found, so we searched again! We re-searched all right."
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Aug 27, 2009, 12:51 PM
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Barach Obama - Anti-Christ? All the signs point to it.
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