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    #1

    Feb 5, 2008, 08:40 AM
    Is John McCain mentally stable enough to be President?
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/03/AR2008020303242_pf.html

    "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine," Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), also a senior member of the Appropriations panel, told the Boston Globe recently. "He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."
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    Feb 5, 2008, 08:51 AM
    I think he is. He does seem to get "energized".

    This is the time that all the gloves come off and anyone remotely appearing to be a frontrunner, will receive such negative scruinty. From now until November it is only going to get worse. We have to weed through what is just a smear campaign and what is factual.

    And not that I am leaning towards McCain, because in truth I am not.
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    Feb 5, 2008, 08:57 AM
    Passionate about his beliefs, or a hothead; is there a difference? I think so.
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    Feb 5, 2008, 09:29 AM
    My guess is that working day in and day out with the jackasses in the Senate must surely have an effect on his temperament. I have heard ancendotal support for the suggestion that he has displayed his temper to friend and foe alike in the Senate. I have also heard some mean spirited suggestions that he is the "Manchurian Candidate " .There is the not so veiled linkage to him being "unstable " as the posting suggests to his time served as a POW which I think is gutter politics.

    Imprisonment and torture are the sort
    Of things that might just drive a person daft.
    So just in case that happened to McCain,
    Let's stick with candidates who dodged the draft.

    Lately it is Rick Santorum who has brought the issue up in robo-calls to voters in primary states today. But Santorum had little issue with McCain stumping for him when Santorum was running for reelection. Romney does not mention McCain's temperament .He leaves that to his henchmen.

    So if the issue of temperament is to be an issue I'm sure then that Evita's will also be fair play . You should hear the things I've heard about her...


    On the other hand I thought it was dishonest of McCain to suggest in the last debate that Romney was in favor of time tables for withdrawal / cut and run .
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    Feb 5, 2008, 10:14 AM
    Hmm, I guess he's in good company.

    Clinton erupts on Chris Wallace.

    When Gore Gets Mad

    Ted Kennedy unhinged

    Or how about our favorite unhinged Democrat, Pete Stark:

    “I yield myself two minutes. Madam speaker, I, first of all, I’m just amazed that they can’t figure out — the Republicans are worried that they can’t pay for insuring an additional 10 million children. They sure don’t care about finding $200 billion to fight the illegal war in Iraq. Where are you going to get that money? Are you going to tell us lies like you’re telling us today? Is that how you’re going to fund the war? You don’t have money to fund the war on children. But you’re going to spend it to blow up innocent people if he can get enough kids to grow old enough for you to send to Iraq to get their heads blown off for the President’s amusement.”
    Rep. Fortney “Pete” Stark (D-Calif.) is the foul-mouthed poster boy for Liberal Double Standards.

    There he was on Capitol Hill last week, sounding more like Eminem than an eminent lawmaker, hurling epithets such as “fruitcake” and “c–ks—-r” at Republicans during a mark-up session on pension funds legislation of all things...

    According to an official committee transcript, Stark physically taunted fellow Ways and Means Committee member Scott McInnis (R-Colorado) while Thomas attempted to hold a voice vote on the bill at hand. In response to McInnis’ demand that Thomas be quiet while the bill was being read, Stark blurted out: “[O]h, you think you are big enough to make me, you little wimp? Come on. Come over here and make me. I dare you.”

    Further goading McInnis, a married Republican gentleman, Stark lashed out: “You little fruitcake. You little fruitcake. I said you are a fruitcake.” According to Fox News Channel, witnesses say Stark then hurled a 10-letter homophobic insult at Thomas better suited for an anti-gay rap records than the Congressional Record. Stark’s press office refused to answer my questions on the record about these remarks…
    Personally, I have to question whether anyone who wants to president is mentally stable, but this is as tom said nothing more than gutter politics. Or in the case the media, gutter journalism. All it took for the media to turn on their one time favorite was for him to become the front runner, now he's too old and too unstable? He may not be my first choice but I'm sure he's plenty stable.
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    Feb 5, 2008, 10:17 AM
    ^^
    Are any of those currently running for president??
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    Feb 5, 2008, 10:41 AM
    All I know is that tales of Hillary's temper tantrums are legendary .

    Also ;she has twice (or more ) openly cried on the campaign trail .Such a display of emotion was enough to derail the candidacy of Ed Muskie in 1972 . Would you then post a question about a women's emotional stability regarding Hillary and her ability to run the country ?
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    Feb 5, 2008, 10:44 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55
    Would you then post a question about a women's emotional stability regarding Hillary and her ability to run the country ?
    No need because I agree with you! :)
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    Feb 5, 2008, 11:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    ^^
    Are any of those currently running for president??
    No, Bill used to president, is running for first laddie and to gain some kind of legacy. Kennedy and Stark are mere lawmakers, and the Goracle is the global climate czar. Hillary's temper is the stuff of legend.

    Three recent biographies on Hillary Rodham Clinton, each by widely separated and totally diverse authors, have come to the same conclusion: Hillary has a terrible temper, holds long-lasting grudges, and has a fragile emotional state that can be traced to her childhood. The question these biographical accounts pose is: how will these flaws affect the country, should she win the White House?

    The first biography of note was written by Carl Bernstein, one of the journalists who broke the Watergate scandal. In A Woman in Charge, Bernstein notes that Hillary Clinton has had bouts of depression and melancholy since she was a youngster, and experienced an especially severe episode a year after Bill Clinton was elected president in 1994.

    Bernstein then recites published accounts of Mrs. Clinton’s temper, her tendency to label people as friends or enemies and, in the latter case, to bear lifelong grudges. Since her election as senator, Hillary has formed what is called her “war room” from which emerge strategies to deal harshly and mercilessly with her critics and opponents. Some insiders say Richard Nixon’s “enemies list” would be a fair comparison.

    Bernstein manages to weave some compassion into his narrative, especially when detailing Hillary’s emotional turmoil brought about by Bill Clinton’s “bimbo eruptions” and the smarmy coverage of the Monica Lewinsky affair. Still, the conclusion Bernstein reaches is that Hillary is ruthless and willing to take on any opponent who dares to cross her path.

    The second biography of Hillary, Her Way, comes from Jeff Gerth and Don Van Natta, Jr. both Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalists for the New York Times. While acknowledging that Hillary is currently one of the most influential figures on the political scene, the authors say she is also “the single most divisive individual in our political landscape.” Gerth and Van Natta also bring up Hillary’s “war room” from which she and her staff plan savage attacks against her foes...

    The third book is more about Bill Clinton’s life in retirement, although the pages devoted to his wife are certainly biographical. The Clinton Crack-Up by R. Emmett Tyrrell also focuses on what the author calls Hillary’s “dreadful temper” and how first-hand accounts tell of her throwing objects at her husband and staff. Yet many of the incidents were never reported by the media, even though several reporters witnessed her rages first-hand. Tyrrell, who founded and edits The American Spectator, tells how for years Hillary had demanded that Secret Service agents carry her bags - despite rules that prohibit them from doing so. Tyrrell wonders how Hillary’s awesome temper would influence America’s destiny, should she ever be in control of the military and the Justice Department.

    Some Republicans claim that Hillary may be “too angry” to be elected president. In response, Hillary retreated to the “war room” and emerged with the accusation that her Republican enemies are attacking her because of her gender, and were practicing political sexism. Hillary said she would wear the comment on her anger as “a badge of honor.”

    It is too early, too soon, to predict a winner of the 2008 presidential election. But should Hillary Rodham Clinton be the successful candidate, America will have to learn how to deal with a president who may alternately be depressed and volatile, while being manipulated from the sidelines by the 42nd president of the United States.
    Make of it what you will.
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    Feb 5, 2008, 11:39 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    No, Bill used to president, is running for first laddie and to gain some kind of legacy. Kennedy and Stark are mere lawmakers, and the Goracle is the global climate czar. Hillary's temper is the stuff of legend.
    .
    So the answer is no then. Thanks.
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    Feb 5, 2008, 11:40 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx

    Personally, I have to question whether anyone who wants to president is mentally stable, but this is as tom said nothing more than gutter politics. Or in the case the media, gutter journalism. All it took for the media to turn on their one time favorite was for him to become the front runner, now he's too old and too unstable? He may not be my first choice but I'm sure he's plenty stable.
    Speech, I agree 100% with all of the above. And truly why would anyone want to be President the way we pick them apart. I would like to think that some, and I wish all step up to the plate, for the love of our Country and maybe they do, but my oh my the dissecting that is done. Yikes. I for one, would not want it.

    I honestly wish, and I think most Americans do, that we just stuck to the issues during the campaign and nothing more. But we get so led astray from what is important by the wonderful media and it just takes off from there.
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    Feb 5, 2008, 05:46 PM
    No, I think he is a straight up nut case. Just look at his expressions and his evil grin. He wants to win his own war. He wants to be a perpetual war hero. Not to mention the fact that his strongest backer is that evil toad Kissinger.
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    Feb 6, 2008, 05:33 AM
    Hello NK:

    I challenge his stance on the war, not the fact that he gets pissed off and shows it.

    excon
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    Feb 6, 2008, 06:30 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    this is as tom said nothing more than gutter politics. Or in the case the media, gutter journalism.
    And I can't help but notice how enthusiastically you propagate it.
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    Feb 6, 2008, 06:48 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by ordinaryguy
    And I can't help but notice how enthusiastically you propagate it.
    LOL! So true!
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    Feb 6, 2008, 07:21 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    LOL! So true!
    Hey, someone has to counter the BS, I'm happy to do my part :D

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