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    Dec 9, 2007, 01:31 PM
    Should I let my children explore religion?
    Hello my name is connie and I have 3 kids. My daughter who is 3 wants to go to church so does my 6 year old son... But I am neither chirstien or anything else I was never raised around religion So what do I do I am not into the whole church thing its not that I am a non beliver but I like to do my thanks to the things that deserve it! And I have no idea about anything in the bible so please no quoting I really won't get what it is supposed to mean sorry. But I would really like to know what you think and why you pray to god and what church means to you?
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    Dec 9, 2007, 01:39 PM
    You can't really stop them, OK you can say no, but they will talk to friends, read material and so on. With that many families send their kids to Sunday school and church but don't go. Most of the larger churches have buses that will pick the kids up and bring them back.
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    Dec 9, 2007, 01:47 PM
    I do understand what you are saying but there are no busses where we live to pick up kids for church and most kids in this town don't go to church so you don't really hear about it too much.. there are also about 6-7 churches in this small town so which do I send them to? Do I need to be a christien or what ever else church things out there ( sorry for the lingo but not to shure what to call the other church people) I really don't know what to do at this point.
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    Dec 9, 2007, 01:52 PM
    I would just ask God very simply "please show me what you want me to do. I don't know how to handle this situation. If you lead me, I will follow." Then let Him show you what church to take the kids to. You don't have to know everything, just take them and let God do the work.

    To me, church is a place where I am welcome, I find strength, friendship, fellowship, comfort, I can learn, I can worship, I can grow. I prayed for six months or so before going to the church I am with. God will answer if you ask.
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    Dec 9, 2007, 02:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by connie-mom
    Hello my name is connie and I have 3 kids. My daughter who is 3 wants to go to church so does my 6 year old son .....But I am neither chirstien or anything else I was never raised around religion So what do I do I am not into the whole church thing its not that I am a non beliver but I like to do my thanks to the things that deserve it!! And I have no idea about anything in the bible so please no quoting I really wont get what it is suposed to mean sorry. but I would really like to know what you think and why you pray to god and what church means to you?
    Hi Connie,

    This is quite a sensitive subject and I can feel your sincerity in your words. I must also compliment you on your honesty as well. You mentioned that you do not go to church or read the bible, however you said you are not an unbeliever and you also asked why pray to God. Very good question.

    God made the earth , he made us ,humans , he also provided us with food, sunlight , rain , all the different seasons . He gave us food in variety, with taste buds to enjoy the food we eat. He gave us eyes to see, not only in black and white but in color. We really do not need taste buds or to see in color to be alive! This shows how much he loves us and cares for us.

    Besides have taken a good look at a beautiful sunset? How awesome is it? His power and greatness is seen in the wind, the stars, moon and sun! Do you think that a being that Awesome, Powerful and Great should be praised? If you believe then teach your children to love him, pray to him and respect and worship him . He is God Almighty and he deserves to to praised.

    I hope that I have shed some light on your concern and please feel free to ask more questions if you think I have helped you. Thank you for your honesty and love.

    The Nurturer
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    Dec 9, 2007, 02:11 PM
    What nation do you live in? And how large is your town, the reason I ask is that even in a town of 5000 people there were over 60 churches in places I have lived, in a town of perhaps 1000 you may only have 10 or less churches. Unless you live in a community where everyone is almost one faith, like 90 percent catholic, or anglican or something.

    But believe me, if they want to go, any good church could or would make arrangements for them to go.

    So what are your religious beleirfs, state them and perhaps we can narrow down what religion you fit into better.
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    Dec 9, 2007, 03:51 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by connie-mom
    Hello my name is connie and I have 3 kids. My daughter who is 3 wants to go to church so does my 6 year old son .....But I am neither chirstien or anything else I was never raised around religion So what do I do I am not into the whole church thing its not that I am a non beliver but I like to do my thanks to the things that deserve it!! And I have no idea about anything in the bible so please no quoting I really wont get what it is suposed to mean sorry. but I would really like to know what you think and why you pray to god and what church means to you?
    First, let me say that I think kids should be exposed to all all kinds of different beliefs and customs and arrive at their own conclusion about the world as they get older.

    This won't be a popular answer here, but I'm very much against the brainwashing of little children in the ways of any one religion. Just as they're too young to know whether they subscribe to a democrat or republican point of view, they're also too young to know whether they should suscribe to a Christian, Jewish, Islamic, (or hopefully), secular points of view.

    Think about it... Kids are naturally gullible. They don't have a choice when parents bring them up to believe their beliefs. So I would suggest exposing your kids to all different religions and letting them sort it out when they're older. My kids know that I'm a non-believer. But they also know that I want them to think for themselves. If in the end, they decide they want to believe in God, that's fine by me. As long as they thought it through themselves and don't believe things just because someone said it's true. This is what I'm doing with my kids and they seem happier for it.
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    Dec 9, 2007, 04:07 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Nurturer
    We really do not need taste buds or to see in color to be alive! This shows how much he loves us and cares for us. The Nurturer
    I know you mean well, but this just makes me wince! I take it you don't believe in that far fetched little scientific theory called evolution, right? The earth is only 10,000 years old, and our species didn't descend from other species. There are very good evolutionary reasons we have taste buds and see in color!

    To Connie:

    This is precisely the problem I have with subjecting young children to religion! Do you really want your kids growing up to be ignorant with respect to science and the real world around them? Don't you want them to be successful in their careers, etc. By the time they are adults the world will require that they be well versed in science and how things really work. Dogmatic religion often promotes just the opposite.
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    Dec 9, 2007, 04:47 PM
    That is my exact problem I do not have a religion... and I do look at things rationaly (not to say others don't who believe god gave us all this) but my problem with god and the aspect he was some kind of superhuman person. I know some things I have to say might be touchy and some of it might be a huge misunderstanding but this is why I need to know these things I would like to be able to be behind my kids in their search for the right religion but not knowing anything about it its hard for me to point them in the right direction so here are my question and ten reasons I need peoples help in understanding things.

    1st I do not believe we all came from addam and eve (that would mean insest)
    2nd I do believe in a guy who did wonderful things(god)
    3rd I do believe in same sex couples as some animals in the wild do the same thing.(pigmi apes)
    4th I do not believe god was a virgin when he died too much evidence that he was with that girl marry something.
    5th I do not believe he had magical powers as later in years the church did witch hunts and killed a lot of innocent people accused of doing magic.
    6th If he is so almighty why does he kill the innocent and leave the bad people?
    7th If god died for our sins then why did the church sin after he died for them? (pretaining to the witch hunts,child assults and other offences against people) and why do they still allow it to happen?
    8th If drinking and gambeling is so wrong then why does he gamble in people lives and why did they drink wine?
    9th if murder is wrong why did he kill all those people during the red river thing with the plague and all that?
    10th if god was so upset with our behaviour and sent a flood to wipe out the bad why did and how did the bad continue and why did his followers do bad things to each other?
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    Dec 9, 2007, 04:51 PM
    To fr-chuck I live in canada in a small minning town we don't even have a proper doctoer here that is about 45 min drive away.. so yha only 7-8 churches and I have no idea which one to go to they do not advertise or ask for people to come to their church mostly they just keep going with the family who have lived here for years and keep going but I am so not a churchey person so they don't go near me.
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    Dec 9, 2007, 05:57 PM
    I was hopeing for this for my children but a so called friend took my children to a youth group run by the church and my kids want to go back

    ... I am not to sure what kind of church it is or what they do but they really liked it and wants to go back what would you segest there?

    And how do you teach prayer and worship with no god or higher power?

    I really do hope for something else as I lost one of my children (she died at birth) she was a stillborn and is my reason I have so much problem beleaving in a god who kills little children
    .. and why I feel so confused about my other children going to a church. Do I allow it why should I allow it ?should I let then decide what do I do? And how do I go about doing it?
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    Dec 9, 2007, 06:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by connie-mom
    I was hopeing for this for my children but a so called friend took my children to a youth group run by the church and my kids want to go back...I am not to sure what kinda church it is or what they do but she really liked it and wants to go back what would you segest there?
    I'm not sure who you're asking, but I see nothing wrong with letting them go if they enjoy it. Again, I'm not ANTI-Christian! I just think that if they explore one custom or religion, it would be nice to expose them to others as well.

    But if they like it, I say what's the harm? You're still their parent and the biggest influence on their life right now. My own kids go to religious school. My ex-wife is adament that they make their first communion and get confirmed. I'm fine with that. But I have a very good relationship with my kids. They talk to me and they're very smart. When my daughter was 7, she already wanted to know how Adam could've preceded Eve if babies come from mommies! I was soooo proud of her! Now that's a smart kid!

    Today, I don't think she believes most things in the bible (she's 11 now). But she enjoys religious school and I have no problem with it. I always tell her, "Just think for yourself!". As long as she does that, I'm fine with whatever her world view turns out to be.
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    Dec 9, 2007, 06:20 PM
    Thanks for the help I was so confused as to what to do

    I know its harsh to point fingers but all religion have some kind fault with them I really like to think in a scientific way and believe in facts not fiction.

    But to say to my daughter and son if god is so great why did he let you sister die? To me is just as bad on my part. There is no facts on whether there is a god or afterlife but it helped me at one point in my life dealing with my hurt to point a finger at this god figure and post blame.

    I am still not to sure on what to do fully or how to get them in to a church group with out going myself but I hope to figure that out in time they are still bent on going and I don't want to stop them but what other options do I have I don't know of any other groups like church. Aah so annoyed with myself I should have done some looking into this as a teenager when my son was young.
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    Dec 9, 2007, 06:25 PM
    By all means let your children go... Just a quick note for you and me... God loves us first... just as a parent you love your children... then he went one step further... his one and only son Jesus died on the cross so that you and I (sinners) may be saved... What great news... and where can you hear the Word of the Lord? In church... Go and listen to the word and the good News that we sinners have hope when we put our trust in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! Have a Nice Day !
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    Dec 9, 2007, 06:29 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by connie-mom
    But to say to my daughter and son if god is so great why did he let you sister die? to me is just as bad on my part.
    I'm very sorry for your loss. And I agree it's not a good idea to turn your kids against god. I hope you don't think I'm suggesting that. As rational thinking adults, we question how a loving god can allow innocent children to suffer and die, etc. (also a big reason I'm a non-believer). In time, I'm sure your kids will see it too. But for now, they're too young to be bothered with such confusing and mixed signals about their sister. Again, I'm very sorry for your loss. It must be hard. But you sound strong, which is good for your kid's sake.
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    Dec 9, 2007, 06:39 PM
    Thanks so much We do love to go for walk as I am a huge animal lover and I do respect all things in life which is my other problem with church I respect all types of people no matter colour,race ,beliefs, life mistakes,sexual orientation its life and life has a way of revealing beauty in all you just have to look with unaffected eyes to see.

    But yes we will sit down and talk about how thing went,me and the kids have a very open relationship we talk about everything.. which is how I found out about heir wanting to go and we did discuss things but not knowing anything about religion it was hard for me to answer their questions.

    But thank you you have helped out so much.
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    Dec 9, 2007, 06:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by John in Montana
    By all means let your children go...Just a quick note for you and me...God loves us first...just as a parent you love your children...then he went one step further...his one and only son Jesus died on the cross so that you and I (sinners) may be saved...What great news...and where can you hear the Word of the Lord? In church...Go and listen to the word and the good News that we sinners have hope when we put our trust in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ ! ! ! Have a Nice Day !

    Ok I know this might sound dumb to you but why would he let his son be killed that makes him just as guilty to murder as the people who killed him and was it not the other god beleaving people who killed him? Not to sure on the details so help me out on this one so I am on the right track as to what you are trying to say. And if we are still sinners why did he die? I thought he died for our sins?
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    Dec 9, 2007, 06:58 PM
    This is why of course you need to go to church and do a bible study to find out why, and of course you don't have to accept to allow your children to believe, and you can't force your children to believe just because you do.

    This is YOUR opinion which I would call wrong

    All religion is based on some fiction, sorry no real fiction, that is only your opinon

    And you are trying to justify God, he has his rules and ways, and to be honest does not need to justify, And making you believe is not going to happen until you want to find God. As long as you want to find him in science, don't waste you time, when you want to find him in faith, you want to find him because you know something is missing in your life and happiness then you will find him. When you realise science can't explain near everything that happens, and believe miricles do happen that science can't explain.

    This is why children accept and find God much easier, because they can still believe in faith.

    On Jesus death, remember Jesus rose from the dead, so why he experienced death he did not stay dead, So God the Father knew this and that his son was taking the suffering of the world, and was doing the final defeat of death for us.
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    Dec 9, 2007, 07:03 PM
    It all started with sin... first sin was when Adam and Eve ate fruit of the tree... since that time we would all be deemed to hell... but NO... God had a plan... he sent his Son Jesus to save the world from sin... By his death on the cross he took our place so he intercedes for us to God... thus all we have to do is to truly believe that Jesus is our Lord and Savior..
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    Dec 9, 2007, 07:32 PM
    Connie, please check out these sites:
    Not Religion! - Home
    1-888-NEED HIM - Why Am I Here? What Makes My Life So Hard? Answers to Life's Greatest Questions

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