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superwario99 · Oct 18, 2007, 02:07 AM

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Capuchin · Oct 18, 2007, 02:18 AM

You don't join religion for the perks, you join a religion so that you can worship god in a way that YOU feel is right. You should join the religion that best conforms with your world view and that you believe is right.

It's not up to us at all. It's totally up to you and your beliefs.

Edit: Editing the question after people have answered could be considered rude.

firmbeliever · Oct 18, 2007, 02:42 AM

Cap,
That is so true.

Superwario,
I suggest a good knowledge of the monotheistic faiths will help you compare and choose.
I am a firmbeliever in my own faith because I accept all of it.

savedsinner7 · Oct 18, 2007, 07:10 AM

The Bible is about relationship, with Jesus. He rebuked the Pharisees for their "religion". They did not worship Him, but worshiped their own knowledge. Christians are called to trust in Jesus for their salvation, not to make it happen by anything we do. True Christianity is summed up as: Mark 12:29-31 (New King James Version)
New King James Version (NKJV)
Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc.

29 Jesus answered him, “The first of all the commandments is: 'Hear, O Israel, the LORD our God, the LORD is one. 30 And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.'[a] This is the first commandment.[b] 31 And the second, like it, is this: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'[c] There is no other commandment greater than these.”

And true religion is:
James 1:26
If anyone among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one's religion is useless.
James 1:25-27 (in Context) James 1 (Whole Chapter)
James 1:27
Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

True Christianity is not about do's and don't's. It's about worshiping the LORD and loving Him with all we have, are and ever hope to be. In loving Him, we will love others. In serving Him, we will serve others. This is done through the Holy Spirit at work in us, not by our own strength. Our own strength fails every time. We have to trust what Jesus did on the cross, He bridged the gap and made a way. Anything less is human effort.

inthebox · Oct 18, 2007, 12:41 PM

It is individual, hopefully through research and experience.

I think it wrong to pit one against the other, but better to show respect for the individual's choice.

Grace and Peace

labman · Oct 18, 2007, 01:49 PM

In Christianity, salvation is ours to accept, freely given by the grace of God to the believers. Islam is a return to the Jewish concept of earning your salvation. That gives sinners no hope.

firmbeliever · Oct 18, 2007, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by labman

In Christianity, salvation is ours to accept, freely given by the grace of God to the believers. Islam is a return to the Jewish concept of earning your salvation. That gives sinners no hope.

That is not exactly right.
Sinners have to stop their sinning and return to the right way,by heart,body and soul and they too have a chance.
Forgiveness is in the hands of the Almighty.

Even believers are not guaranteed entry into Heaven by just believing,it is out of the Almighty;s mercy that we are allowed into Heaven.

EDIT::::::::::::::

Sorry!
When I answered the OP, I had not realised it was in the Christianity thread, as the question was quite general.
I apologise for stating Islamic views here, but if anyone wishes I will delete this post.

Fr_Chuck · Oct 18, 2007, 02:52 PM

Ok, you are asking this question in the christian board, so of course here Christianity is far better as decided by Christian members who post on the board. If you post this on the Islam board their opinon would be different, if you ask iton the Jewish board, I am not sure who they would say.

firmbeliever · Oct 18, 2007, 02:57 PM

This should be on "Other religions" in order for the OP to get a balanced view without anyone feeling bad.
Just a suggestion.

fallen2grace · Oct 18, 2007, 08:47 PM

Why would you ask that? Its your opinion.

Onan · Oct 21, 2007, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by fallen2grace

Why would you ask that? Its your opinion.

I totally agree, and it is my opinion that they are both just as bad. Both religions are responsible for the death of millions and millions of innocent people just for not believing.

Religion is the number 1 cause of death on this planet and that cannot be disputed. I don't care how many religious people claim they were not true christians or they were not true Islams etc etc. they carry around the same beliefs in their bible's today that was taught and preached back then. In my opinion if one chooses to believe in Christ then they have nothing wrong with what's been done in his name. Same with Islam. Who would want to be part of a religion that has caused so much pain and suffering in the world? Religion should be looked at and studdied as to make sure we don't make the same mistakes, not to follow and try to recreate the same mistakes.

inthebox · Oct 21, 2007, 11:34 AM

Onan: fyi

The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century

The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century

The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century

Genocide

From:
Alan Colmes and I Debate the Inquisition - News Bloggers

"atheism, not religion, is responsible for the mass murders of history. My book has chapter and verse on this. The Spanish Inquisition, for instance, killed some 2,000 people over a period of 350 years. That's 2,000 too many, but it's also about how many an atheist regime like Stalin's killed on a good weekend. I show that during the twentieth century the atheist regimes of Stalin, Hitler and Mao murdered more than 100 million people"

Grace and Peace

inthebox · Oct 21, 2007, 11:51 AM

"Religion is the number 1 cause of death on this planet and that cannot be disputed. I don't care ..."

And now for the real causes:

In the US
QuickStats: Age-Adjusted Death Rates for the Five Leading Causes of Death --- United States, 2001--2004

Worldwide
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0779147.html

Funny I don't see "religion" as a "cause of death"

Grace and Peace

fallen2grace · Oct 21, 2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Onan

I totally agree, and it is my opinion that they are both just as bad. Both religions are responsible for the death of millions and millions of innocent people just for not believing.

Religion is the number 1 cause of death on this planet and that cannot be disputed. I don't care how many religious people claim they were not true christians or they were not true Islams ect ect. the fact of the matter is they carry around the same beliefs in their bible's today that was taught and preached back then. In my opinion if one chooses to believe in Christ then they have nothing wrong with whats been done in his name. Same with Islam. Who would want to be part of a religion that has caused so much pain and suffering in the world?? Religion should be looked at and studdied as to make sure we don't make the same mistakes, not to follow and try to recreate the same mistakes.

Religion isn't the only cause. Yes, It has killed a lot of people, But so have other things, Like Cancer, AIDS, etc. Id say religion is only a small part, and its ALL religions, you can't just single out Christianity and Islam.

Capuchin · Oct 21, 2007, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by fallen2grace

Religion isnt the only cause. Yes, It has killed alot of people, But so have other things, Like Cancer, AIDS, etc. Id say religion is only a small part, and its ALL religions, you can't just single out Christianity and Islam.

I would just like to point this out in case you didn't notice.

You just compared religion to disease.

Onan · Oct 21, 2007, 04:44 PM

"atheism, not religion, is responsible for the mass murders of history. My book has chapter and verse on this. The Spanish Inquisition, for instance, killed some 2,000 people over a period of 350 years. That's 2,000 too many, but it's also about how many an atheist regime like Stalin's killed on a good weekend. I show that during the twentieth century the atheist regimes of Stalin, Hitler and Mao murdered more than 100 million people"

Hitler was a christian, how in the world does he fit in with atheists? I believe he was a practicing Catholic. It was the NT anti semetic story that fueled his hate for the Jews.

I don't have time right now but I will address this better later.

Onan · Oct 21, 2007, 04:45 PM

you can't just single out Christianity and Islam.

I did say all religion.

fallen2grace · Oct 21, 2007, 08:31 PM

I totally agree, and it is my opinion that they are both just as bad. Both religions are responsible for the death of millions and millions of innocent people just for not believing.

I don't care how many religious people claim they were not true christians or they were not true Islams etc etc.

To me, That's not saying every religion.

Onan · Oct 21, 2007, 08:56 PM

Religion is the number 1 cause of death on this planet

-by me

I singled out the 2 because that's the to the question was about but I believe my quote above explains pretty clearly I feel all religions are guilty

pure · Oct 22, 2007, 02:41 PM

If you have any questions about Islam, PM me.