[inthebox]

God Kills?

If you believe in the God of the Bible, all death is due to sin. Since the fall of man in the garden of Eden, death is inevitable.
Also God hates all sin - death is the result.
Sin is the result of free will / choice.
And all are sinners Romans 3:21 -26
That is why He sent Jesus - John 3:16

It is hypocritical for those who don't believe in God and the Bible to take verses out of context. If you don't believe in the Bible /God /Jesus then why do you rattle off verses, other than to antagonize? You never seem to point out all the passages about love [ 1 cor13:4 1john 4: 7-12 for example ]. This just reveals your intent .




Grace and Peace

[DrJ]

I am not sure who you are referring to but you do not know what I believe.

I understand that death is the result of sin... that is the same today as it was 2000 years ago.

So why is it so hard to believe that people still kill those sinners in the name of God? Or at God's request?

[inthebox]

Also

If you don't believe in God/ Bible / Jesus


What do you believe in?
Yourself?
Humans?
Nature?
All are going to die. What is the point?


If you believe in Darwin / Evolution / Natural selection

Why are you wating your limited lifespan on the internet?
Shouldn't you be procreating to ensure your genetic legacy?

Why not kill? Survival of the fittest, right?

Why aren't you enjoying a hedonistic lifestyle - after all time is limited.
Why try to be good? If there is no God to please?



Grace and Peace

[DrJ]

Im not sure where you are going with this... did you read my post before you posted that?

[inthebox]

Also


If God is responsible for < 3 million deaths isn't he just a weak god

After all Stalin beat him out
Human kind has beat him out.




Grace and Peace

[jillianleab]

inthebox, are your saying the only reason you don't go around killing people is because you fear what God will do to you? That might be the most frightening thing I've ever read.

[NeedKarma]

Why try to be good?? if there is no God to please?

That is a frightening bit of text.

[excon]

Hello again,

I'm good (on occaision). But, not because there's a god. But because there's my mom.

excon

[michealb]

Survival of the fittest, in the way it applies to humans is that we have found a way to co-exist and increase everyone's chances of survival by acting civl to one another. If someone goes around killing people, others will join together to remove the threat, and not allow the killer to continue to spread their genetic code. Therefore, the human race has to be selectivley bred to generally not kill one another

[DrJ]

Also


if God is responsible for < 3 million deaths isn't he just a weak god

After all Stalin beat him out
Human kind has beat him out.




Grace and Peace

So you believe Stalin is the stronger God? (sorry just trying to match the ridiculousness)

No matter what His kill count is, the fact remains (I suppose I should use that term loosely here) that He has been responsible for deaths in the biblical era. Why couldn't He be responsible for deaths today?

What is to say that bets are still not being made between Him and Satan? What is to say that a national disaster was not caused by Him to show Satan that even after that, His people will still worship Him? Or to show who is currently winning the battle here?

Survival of the fittest, in the way it applies to humans is that we have found a way to co-exist and increase everyone's chances of survival by acting civl to one another. If someone goes around killing people, others will join together to remove the threat, and not allow the killer to continue to spread their genetic code. Therefore, the human race has to be selectivley bred to generally not kill one another

The ability to kill is genetic? That is an interesting theory. Would you pose that to killing in general or what we would call "cold-blooded murder"?

[RJ12345100]

Is it simply a human convention?

Because u deinnetly will go to jail

[RJ12345100]

U will go to jail
:cool:

[RJ12345100]

Jail

[DrJ]

Do you honestly believe that every human that has killed another has been jailed for it?

And even so, ones decision not to kill had better be a little deeper than the fear of going to jail lol

[michealb]

The ability to kill is genetic? That is an interesting theory. would you pose that to killing in general or what we would call "cold-blooded murder"?

Killing is just the ultimate anti-social behavior. Humans that are anti-social generally aren't as successful as humans that are. We all have the ability to kill it's just whether we do it in a socially acceptable form or not. If not killing suddenly no longer gave us an advantage as a species, the human race would change as those that took that step gained an advantage and those that didn't lost theirs.

[inthebox]

[QUOTE=DrJizzle]So you believe Stalin is the stronger God? (sorry just trying to match the ridiculousness)

No matter what His kill count is, the fact remains (I suppose I should use that term loosely here) that He has been responsible for deaths in the biblical era. Why couldn't He be responsible for deaths today?

What is to say that bets are still not being made between Him and Satan? What is to say that a national disaster was not caused by Him to show Satan that even after that, His people will still worship Him? Or to show who is currently winning the battle here?

Note the "if" and the small "g" in god.

IF God is responsible for all death past, present, and future, does that means we humans don't have any responsibility for death?
Don't we have free will?
How can God and satan be making a bet when there is no free will ?

I know of one death that God willed, so to speak.
That of Jesus Christ, for all our sins, conquered by His resurrection..

That is not death, that is love.



Grace and Peace

[inthebox]

Survival of the fittest, in the way it applies to humans is that we have found a way to co-exist and increase everyone's chances of survival by acting civl to one another. If someone goes around killing people, others will join together to remove the threat, and not allow the killer to continue to spread their genetic code. Therefore, the human race has to be selectivley bred to generally not kill one another

THat natural selection sure is taking along time, because humans are still killling each other.
In fact our ability to kill one another keeps on increasing.

Hitler believed in natural selection.

Why have welfare, social security, medicare if you believe in Darwinism?
What is the selective advantage of keeping those unable to support themselves
Financially or medically?


Grace and Peace

[change]

Is it simply a human convention?

I think about my own demise sometimes my own end .for me it would probably be interesting to live for ever I could be wrong.. at the point were in life you find yourself with noting left to do put die.. then that's that.. . taking a life I would think that if someone is so bent on violance then I say killem.. if some one is so bent on hurting another.I say killem.. and think if you are thinking about killing some one I say kill you self.

[DrJ]

Note the "if" and the small "g" in god.

IF God is responsible for all death past, present, and future, does that means we humans don't have any responsibilty for death?
Don't we have free will?
How can God and satan be making a bet when there is no free will ?

I know of one death that God willed, so to speak.
That of Jesus Christ, for all our sins, conquered by His resurrection..

That is not death, that is love.



Grace and Peace

Im sorry, but you continue to not make any sense.

First of all, where did I spell God with a lowercase 'g'? :confused: And when did I say that God was responsible for all deaths past, present, and future? :confused: Of course humans are responsible for MANY deaths :confused: How would you conclude that I am saying the opposite? And yes, of course there is free will :confused: And God and Satan have made bets before (the story of Job) :confused:

Instead of "attempting" to attack me for what you believe I do or don't believe in, why do you not just try to join in the conversation.

It is written that God has ordered the deaths of many. Shall I start quoting or do you know enough of the Bible that you understand this? Once again, do not assume that you know what I believe.

[michealb]

THat natural selection sure is taking along time, because humans are still killling each other. In fact our ability to kill one another keeps on increasing.

Natural selection takes a long time in the order of millions of years and why our ability to kill has increased I am 100% sure that the chance of being involved in a random act of violance has decreased in the last 1,000 years.

Hitler believed in natural selection.

Just because Hitler supported something doesn't mean it doesn't exist or is bad. Hitler was a Christion. He also supported the VW bug.

Why have welfare, social security, medicare if you believe in Darwinism? What is the selective advantage of keeping those unable to support themselves
financially or medically?

Is it not the point of welfare to help those people become a contributing member of the community and give the rest of us an advantage by doing things for us that we do not want to do ourselves.
What advantage does social security give then, since people on social security are at the end of there life and not able to work any more?
Just because a person doesn't work doesn't mean they aren't contributing to the community a grandparent teaching lessons of the past to their grandchild can have more value than any job.