[tomder55]

1. Respect for the facts and for the right of the public to truth is the first duty of the journalist.
Global Charter of Ethics for Journalists - IFJ


The question had to be asked . The compliant press ;especially the White House correspondents who have more exposure to the President than any other people not connected directly with him , failed in their primary jobs to inform the public . Why ???

Deflect Deflect Deflect !!!!

They are now admitting that they were involved in possibly the biggest cover up in our history . They saw as plain as day ;every day ;the mental decline of the President but were reluctant to tell the public.

(get ready for some steaming bull sh*t )

They did not want to feed into the right wing narrative . Yeah they are really saying that.

The media has faced accusations that it has not covered Biden’s mental fitness more aggressively because it wants to prop up the campaign in some way – an accusation the White House reporters CNN spoke to denied.
Several White House reporters told CNN that the coverage of Biden’s age and his mental stamina should have pushed harder. They cited several difficulties in doing so before the debate – from the obvious political motivations of sources who either want to protect Biden’s image or project a certain image, to the blowback from pursuing such reports, especially from the White House and Democrats.

Biden’s mental fitness could have been better covered leading up to the debate, some White House reporters acknowledge | CNN Business

“The right-wing media was calling him senile from day one, and that wasn’t true,” the reporter said. “Then whenever you report on the age you were in some ways solidifying, giving credence to some people that were actually of bad faith.”
All the White House reporters who spoke to CNN for this piece chose to speak anonymously so they could speak more freely about their relationship with the White House.

Yeah that's the ticket .They did not report the truth because it fed a truthful narrative that was politically inconvenient .

And still they claim that they have no hidden agenda .


Former Slimes Executive Editor Jill Abramson :

It’s clear the best news reporters in Washington have failed in the first duty of journalism: to hold power accountable. It is our duty to poke through White House smoke screens and find out the truth. The Biden White House clearly succeeded in a massive cover-up of the degree of the President’s feebleness and his serious physical decline, which may be simply the result of old age. Shame on the White House press corps for not to have pierced the veil of secrecy surrounding the President.
Obviously, the President’s decline was a super hard story to report, even by those who wanted to get it, like the WSJ. Their story did not deliver, using mostly named GOP sources.
But I do think if enough reporters had pushed, the story was reportable. I worry that too many journalists didn’t try to get the story because they did not want to be accused of helping elect Donald Trump. I get that.

��​ Mixed Signals Special: Blame the media? | Semafor

I get it too. It is why I call them the compliant press. They fail in their number 1 responsibility for a free press. Instead they became advocates and propagandists .

[tomder55]

Meanwhile KJP still makes excuses for his debate performance
" He had a schedule that was rigorous, the travel he had to do, going from Italy all the way to the west coast," "I think, that can have a toll on anyone, whether you're 20 or 80."

Ah the ole jet lag excuse !

Let's forget about the fact that Air Force One has a bed I assume is very comfortable . The truth is that he was holed up in the comfortable confines of Camp David for a week after his travels. But more to the point ;the reason that people are so concerned about his mental and physical decline is because the job is so demanding .

For the record ;it was no secret in 2020 when he conducted his in the basement campaign that something was really wrong with him .4 years later the compliant press is trying to salvage any integrity they have left.

[jlisenbe]

" He had a schedule that was rigorous, the travel he had to do, going from Italy all the way to the west coast," "I think, that can have a toll on anyone, whether you're 20 or 80."

Wasn't he holed up in the White House for the week prior to the debate?

[tomder55]

The guy has more down time than any prior president. He routinely takes long weekends at his Delaware beach mansion (travel courtesy of US taxpayers .)

He went to Camp David for a week of debate prep and pharmaceutical adjustment .
Biden heads to Camp David to prepare for 1st presidential debate with Trump - ABC News (go.com)

[tomder55]

Expect the best cover up attempt Sunday when ABC furiously edits the Q and A session that George Stephanopoulos will have with Clueless Joe tomorrow.
I dare ABC to release the unedited tape just as I dare the DOJ to release the unedited recordings of Robert Hur's interviews with Quid Pro Joe that led Hur to conclude that Joe was too feeble to stand trial.

[Wondergirl]

Expect the best cover up attempt Sunday when ABC furiously edits the Q and A session that George Stephanopoulos will have with Clueless Joe tomorrow.

And you were okay with tRump's ungrammatical, rambling, full of lies, bombastic, illogical, hateful responses during the debate (that wasn't a debate)?

[jlisenbe]

And you were okay with tRump's ungrammatical, rambling, full of lies, bombastic, illogical, hateful responses during the debate (that wasn't a debate)?

Bitterness, thy name is Wondergirl. And you have been asked to list these "lies" you continually refer to.

[tomder55]

Well for one thing CNN did not have the opportunity to edit for a day before airing the debate As stated let ABC release the unedited interview . If they are confident in Joe's lucidity then the WH would comply with the Congressional subpoena and release the tapes of his interview with Hur.

Can't answer to Trump's "lies" without specific examples. What I see from Trump is that for a month he sat in court ;then would go to a rally or other campaign event ; stand and speak extemporaneously for an hour or 2 ...go home and post on 'Truth Social ' ..... then wake up early the next morning so he could hold an unrehearsed press conference before again sitting through a kangaroo court .

Joes prepared a week presumably rehearsing answers to questions that CNN probably allowed him to pre-screen. And still he looked and sounded like a drunk geezer doing his best Foster Brooks imitation .
Foster Brooks - The Lovable Drunk | Carson Tonight Show - YouTube

[tomder55]

The worm has turned. Now CNNs Chief medical expert Dr Sanay Gupta ;who in his former life before becoming a talking head was a neurosurgeon; says Clueless Joe should take a cognitive test and publish the results.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta: It’s time for President Biden to undergo detailed cognitive and neurological testing and share his results | CNN

[jlisenbe]

Can't answer to Trump's "lies" without specific examples.

Good luck.

What I see from Trump is that for a month he sat in court ;then would go to a rally or other campaign event ; stand and speak extemporaneously for an hour or 2 ...go home and post on 'Truth Social ' ..... then wake up early the next morning so he could hold an unrehearsed press conference before again sitting through a kangaroo court .

That's really a good observation. That Trump has a physical and mental vitality that is remarkable for a man his age is obvious to everyone other than a died in the wool Trump-hater.

[Wondergirl]

Bitterness, thy name is Wondergirl. And you have been asked to list these "lies" you continually refer to.

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/06/fa...-trump-debate/

[tomder55]

A Project of The Annenberg Public Policy Center

'the Annenberg Foundation has a history of affiliations with liberal causes. The Annenberg Foundation regularly donates for left of center organizations and causes.'

Annenberg Foundation - InfluenceWatch - InfluenceWatch


For the record. The emperor during his campaign brushed off a relationship he had in Chi-town with Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers( a guy who lives in my neighborhood).

Annenberg Foundation . Ayers had brought one of their education projects to Chi-town on an education grant . Ayers recruited the emperor for the project So the emperor and Ayers were more than 2 people living in the same neighborhood.
Ayers became a college professor so he could pollute the minds of another generation.

The Annenberg challenge - POLITICO


But that is not the point . The idea that a fact check organization funded by the Annenberg group is non-bias is laughable .

I note that they often call Trump's claims as "misleading" . I will not address those because they imply falsehood where there is none.

As an example..... Yes it is true that Trump initiated the price breaks on insulin and later Joe piggybacked on his initiative. It was a good idea and should be non-partisan . Joe signed a law that was not available for Trump to sign. The bill called S3700 Affordable Insulin Now Act was introduced by Senator Warnock in 2021 after Trump's term.

So this comment by the "fact checkers " is grossly misleading .

• Trump misleadingly claimed that he was “the one that got the insulin down for the seniors,” not Biden. Costs were lowered for some under a limited project by the Trump administration. Biden signed a law capping costs for all seniors with Medicare drug coverage.

You see it takes a paragraph to take on their claims of lies and misleading statements . They provide little to no details to their claims .I on the other hand offer the evidence to back what I say.

President Trump Announces Lower Out of Pocket Insulin Costs for Medicare’s Seniors | CMS

To their credit ;they do call out Joe for false and misleading statements also Bottom line is that both candidate used exaggerated rhetoric. It is impossible in that format to get into the nuts and bolt details .

So if you want me to address a specific ;let me know .

[jlisenbe]

I went to the site. It had quite a number of allegations, most of which struck me as the typical exagerrations we hear from practically all pols such as this.

• Biden claimed that Trump oversaw the “largest deficit of any president,” while Trump countered that “we now have the largest deficit” under Biden. The largest budget deficit was under Trump in fiscal year 2020, but that was largely because of emergency spending due to COVID-19.

But what do you do when these supposed "fact-checkers" are themselves not being truthful? Note these two examples.

• Biden said Trump called U.S. veterans killed in World War I “suckers and losers,” which Trump called a “made up quote.” The Atlantic reported that, based on anonymous sources. A former Trump chief of staff later seemed to confirm Trump said it.

That is a highly questionable claim which Gen. Kelly and John Bolton have both denied ever hearing. The final sentence borders on lying.

• Trump claimed that Biden “caused the inflation,” but economists say rising inflation was mostly due to disruptions to the economy caused by the pandemic.

Here the "fact-checkers" neglect to mention that many economists believe the reckless printing of money, needed to fund enormous budget deficits, also contributed to the inflation we have suffered through.

One final comment. The site noted quite a number of places where Biden could be said to have lied. Wondergirl rather mysteriously neglected to mention that, and has never accused the president of lying on this site. I wonder what that could be attributable to?

[Wondergirl]

Typical tRump comment, calling people "suckers and losers". Next to him and his own grand accomplishments (please name three), according to him, that's what they are!

Did you follow his "wise and careful medical instructions" during the pandemic? If not, why not?

Why didn't I mention when Biden "could have" lied? Because the topic on the table is tRump's many lies during the debate.

Do you honestly want a dictator in total control of the U.S.?

[jlisenbe]

Typical tRump comment, calling people "suckers and losers".

The whole story is a liberal fantasy. Honestly, it's a typical liberal lie as was explained to you above. Please start having some regard for truth.

Did you follow his "wise and careful medical instructions" during the pandemic?

Which ones? You mean like taking the vaccination? And please don't go back to the lie about injecting bleach which has already been patiently and repeatedly demonstrated to you as being another liberal lie.

Why didn't I mention when Biden "could have" lied? Because the topic on the table is tRump's many lies during the debate.

So lying is bad only if a repub does it? Got it!

Do you honestly want a dictator in total control of the U.S.?

In what way was Trump a dictator in his first term? I don't recall him ever trying to force the American taxpayers to payoff student loans despite being told he could not by SCOTUS. Is that the kind of "dictator" you mean?

As to three accomplishments, try these FIVE.
1. Record low unemployment figures for women and minorities.
2. Incredibly good economic growth.
3. Much better control of the southern border than we have now as is clearly seen in illegal crossing numbers.
4. Appointed three SCOTUS justices who are actually concerned about the rule of law.
5. Unemployment claims fell to a fifty year low.

Need more???

[tomder55]

a dictator would use the law enforcement apparatus to turn political opponents into criminals . rights ? A dictator would use power to censor dissent Right ? a dictator would ignore the rulings of a judiciary Right ? a dictator would use executive orders to bypass the will of Congress 139 times in 3 years right ? Joe's own words " if you can’t get the votes … you can’t [legislate] by executive order unless you’re a dictator. We’re a democracy. We need consensus.”

Now as you know I am critical of both Joe and Trump use of EO to bypass the legislature. But Joe's EOs were critically consequential whether they were opening the border to lawlessness and a critical drag on the social service systems ;or openly defying Supreme Court directives .

Bottom line I'll take the person who sacrificed a significant part of his wealth to serve his nation over the person who sacrificed his nation to further his personal wealth.

The panel after the ABC interview is throwing Joe under the bus. This is one of those Walter Cronkite throwing Johnson under the bus moments .

[Wondergirl]

Bottom line I'll take the person who sacrificed a significant part of his wealth to serve his nation over the person who sacrificed his nation to further his personal wealth.

Yeah! Tomder has finally seen the light! Another vote for Biden!!!

[tomder55]

During the three years after Trump announced his presidential run in 2015, Forbes estimated his net worth declined 31% and his ranking fell 138 spots on the Forbes list of the wealthiest Americans. Just because he decided to run for President . That does not include other losses like brand name decline due to politics. He was beloved by NY and even libs before he decided to run.

This was Rolling Stone condemning Morning Joe and Mika for defending Trump in 2016
Morning Blow: How Joe and Mika Became Trump's Lapdogs (rollingstone.com)

This does not include his financial losses due to the lawfare campaign against him by dictator Joe

[jlisenbe]

Trump is not a professional pol. That's a positive and a negative. He has never learned how to lie efficiently like the pols do. He doesn't know how to be deceptive and to cloak his real intentions in flowery, contradictory language. What you see is what you get with Trump. With Biden, what you get is a professional pol with diminished mental faculties.

[tomder55]

Joe gave a 20 minutes interview and flunked it I thought the issues deserved an hour. George Stephanopoulos said it was unedited . I have to take his word for it .

The premise of this posting is that his condition was known and intentionally covered up and now they are scrambling because the cat is out of the bag......and you can't make the cat walk backwards .We all saw what we saw.

Loved how Clueless Joe added a TDS into his excuses for having a bad interview.

"How quickly did it come to you that you were having that bad night?"
"Well, it came to me I was having a bad night when I realized that even when I was answering the question, even though they turned his mic off, he was still shouting. And I let it distract me," "But I'm not blaming it on that, but I realized that I just wasn't in control."

JM Rieger on X: "STEPHANOPOULOS: How quickly did it come to you that you were having that bad night? BIDEN: Well it came to me I was having a bad night when I realized that even when I was answering a question, even though they turned his mic off, he was still shouting. And I let it distract me. https://t.co/8FO8EPgRDX" / X

'Not in control' is the title of his Presidency .


He said he had a bad cold that affected his performance that was so bad he thought he had covid.

Did he take a covid test ? No

What did he do immediately after the debate ? He went to a crowded Waffle House.

Biden stops at Waffle House after presidential debate (youtube.com)

Then the next day he held a rally .

Biden bounces back from bad debate with energetic Raleigh rally - WHYY

Remarkable recovery for a guy who said he almost fell asleep during the debate .

Joe says his doctors say he is fine. Let them come forward and confirm what he says .