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    Nov 12, 2022, 05:50 AM
    Which is the bigger national security threat ?
    Clueless Joe said that Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter should be investigated for national security reasons that it was “worthy of being looked at”.

    “I think that Elon Musk’s cooperation and/or technical relationships with other countries is worthy of being looked at,” “Whether or not he is doing anything inappropriate, I’m not suggesting that. I’m suggesting that it’s worth being looked at.”

    Remarks by President Biden in Press Conference | The White House
    So Musk should be investigated for his business relations with foreign nations according to Clueless ,but his own Biden crime family's business relations with foreign nations is laughed off saying that the “American public wants to move on” and “it’s almost comedy

    Remarks by President Biden in Press Conference | The White House

    Before Musk's purchased Twitter was a tool used to censor criticism of Clueless and censor information about the Biden Crime family .

    KJP denied in October that there was a Musk investigation. Now I guess it is back on the table.

    Q Thanks, Karine. On Elon Musk, I’m wondering if you’d be willing to clarify, please: Are you saying that no one in the government — you’re saying for a fact that no one in the government is considering any sort of national security review, including CFIUS, on any — on the Twitter purchase, on Starlink, or on any of his other ventures?

    MS. JEAN-PIERRE: I’m saying I don’t know of any such discussions.

    Q Okay. Got you. So do you know, are — is anyone in the administration concerned about the Twitter purchase with some foreign investors, or Starlink, or his peace plan, or his tweets, or his, you know, somewhat Russia-friendly comments? Do you know if there are concerns about that?

    MS. JEAN-PIERRE: So, on the first — on the first piece, we would just not — on the Twitter purchase, that’s something that we would not comment from here. We do not comment — comment on transactions. And so, we’ve been very clear on that. So, I’ll leave that there.

    Press Briefing by Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre and COVID-19 Response Coordinator Dr. Ashish Jha | The White House

    Besides a potential national security review ;the administration is releasing the regulatory dogs to sic Musk . The FTC says it is tracking the purchase with 'deep concern'.
    FTC tracking developments at Twitter after key exec departures (cnbc.com)


    Interesting to note that Clueless Joe sees Musk and Twitter as a potential national security risk but not Chi Com controlled TikTok.

    All the ways TikTok tracks you and how to stop it | WIRED UK

    TikTok Parent ByteDance Planned To Use TikTok To Monitor The Physical Location Of Specific American Citizens (forbes.com)

    DPC launches two inquiries into TikTok concerning compliance with GDPR requirements relating to the processing of childrens’ personal data and transfers of data to China | 14/09/2021 | Data Protection Commission

    US TikTok User Data Has Been Repeatedly Accessed From China, Leaked Audio Shows (buzzfeednews.com)

    Here is the difference
    TikTok is a threat to America
    Twitter under Musk is a threat to the Biden Crime family and the Dems .
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    Nov 16, 2022, 04:20 AM
    Appears that TikTok is in trouble in the US
    Recall that President Trump wanted to ban the Chicom social media giant in the waning days of his term because it was an obvious national security risk.

    Now Dem Senator Mark Warner is giving Trump his due. He says Trump was right about TikTok

    Democrat praises Trump for calling out TikTok as a national security risk (yahoo.com)

    "If your country uses Huawei, if your kids are on TikTok … the ability for China to have undue influence is a much greater challenge and a much more immediate threat than any kind of actual, armed conflict."

    Sen Marco Rubio has been warning the country for a few years about the threat . He is planning on introducing legislation to ban the app. It will have bipartisan support .

    Opinion | Marco Rubio, Mike Gallagher: Ban TikTok in America - The Washington Post

    Former FCC Chair Brendan Carr has called on Google and Apple to ban it from their app stores .

    F.C.C. Commissioner Pushes Apple and Google to Remove TikTok - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    Wondering how this will affect the Biden Crime Family's China relations ?
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    Nov 16, 2022, 06:13 AM
    So Musk should be investigated for his business relations with foreign nations according to Clueless ,but his own Biden crime family's business relations with foreign nations is laughed off saying that the “American public wants to move on” and “it’s almost comedy
    Apparently participating in corruption does not require much brain power.
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    Mar 10, 2024, 06:10 PM
    I am shocked to report this . There has been a stunning reversal in Trump's position on the Chi-com controlled Tik-Tok . My position is clear . Short of a ban in the US because of the national security threat from Chinese data gathering of US Sheeple ;a minimum would be to mandate the part operating in the US should be sold to American interests independent of Chinese influence.( that excludes any organization the Biden crime family is involved in )

    I thought that was Trump's position too.

    However ;in a stunning reversal . It appears Trump has been bought.

    By whom ?

    1st some background . When Trump was President he wanted TikTok banned. He had an EO that the courts blocked
    The Trump administration has alleged that TikTok is a security threat because the Chinese government could spy on app users' personal data.
    Second judge blocks Trump's TikTok ban | CBC News

    He was right.

    Now a bill is being advanced in Congress.

    TikTok: House panel unanimously approves bill that could ban app from US app stores | CNN Business

    Bill that could ban TikTok in the U.S. gains momentum in Congress (nbcnews.com)

    Clueless Joe said he will sign it .

    Suddenly it is Trump who opposes the bill going through the Repub House.

    He claims that a TikTok ban benefits Fakebook's Zuckerman .

    Trump claims TikTok ban would only help "enemy" Facebook (axios.com)

    Perhaps . But it is very suspicious that Trump recently met with Jeff Yass ;the billionaire who is heavily invested in Tik Tok . He is also pumping money into the GOP swamp organization 'The Club For Growth '. Yass is invested to the tune of $33 billion in TikTok's parent company Bytedance.
    Yass has funneled $130 million since 2020 into PACs like ' The Club for Growth'.He has been pressuring members of the House to withdraw the bill ;threatening to withdraw funding .

    How effective has Hass' campaign been ? He got Rand Paul (who can't be bought ) to make a speech opposing a Tik Tok ban .

    Rand Paul backed by GOP donor with $33B TikTok stake (nypost.com)

    Trump who had been feuding with 'The Club for Growth ' is now making nice with them.

    Trump says he and Club for Growth are ‘back in love’ - POLITICO-

    Hey it makes sense politically . He's trying to win an election and the 170 million people who sign onto Tik Tok monthlty vote. There is a ban on it's use in the US government . That does not exclude Clueless from reaching out to it;s users .
    Biden campaign decision to join TikTok raises national security concerns | TikTok | The Guardian

    Still we know for a fact that the Chinese use the platform to spy on us. What are the consequences when the 2 contenders for Chief Executive are more concerned with getting votes than the national security being compromised ?
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    Mar 10, 2024, 07:10 PM
    Makes me glad I don't use Tik Tok.
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    Mar 11, 2024, 01:12 PM
    It's bad . Not only has Trump completely reversed his stance on TikTok ; Kellyanne Conway ;who was his lead in trying to get TikTok banned is now working with the Club For Growth to oppose the TikTok legislation . This legislation made it to the floor after unanimous consent of the House Energy and Commerce Committee Senator Hawley is pushing the bill in the Senate and it appears to have huge bipartisan support

    Trump is justifying his sudden opposition by saying forcing ByteDance to sell it's US interest in TikTok to a US company would benefit Meta(FakeBook ) and Zuckerberg.

    For all it's faults Zuck's company is an American company not a front company for the Chinese Commies.
    Trump says 'America First ' . But his whole campaign is beginning to show it is more grievance campaign. National Security is a secondary concern.
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    Mar 12, 2024, 05:19 AM
    Trump said today he still considers TikTok to be a national security risk. But he still doesn't want it banned because it would help Meta.

    Then he added "There are a lot of people on TikTok that love it. There are a lot of young kids on TikTok who will go crazy without it."

    Trump says TikTok ban would empower Meta, slams Facebook (cnbc.com)
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    Mar 12, 2024, 05:24 AM
    "There are a lot of young kids on TikTok who will go crazy without it."
    Yet another great reason to get rid of it.
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    Mar 14, 2024, 05:40 AM
    Don't cry for TikTok. The House overwhelmingly voted for a bill that could lead to a TikTok ban if the Chinese don't divest of their interest in the US site. The vote will be closer in the Senate .But I expect that it will pass ;and be signed by Clueless ,despite Trump's new found love for the site.

    Social media is a moving target . Sites come and go ;rise and fall rapidly.....remember MySpace ? All the Google attempts that failed ? Even Fakebook is down to a loyal few.
    TikTok will be reconfigured to eliminate the Chicom spying ;or a new generation will concentrate to the next big social media platform.

    India banned TikTok. India uses went to Instagram and YouTube.

    In a free country ,when there is a demand for products or services ,someone will provide it . There is no need to give up our personal information to a nation with bad intent.
    What the U.S. can learn from India’s TikTok ban - Rest of World
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    Jul 12, 2024, 12:26 PM
    We need to get books back. No laptop computers to elementary school students to use during random classes. Computer rooms with desktops are perfect when computers are needed.

    And of course phones are not needed during school days.
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    Jul 12, 2024, 01:57 PM
    Well said Essua's Avitar . Glad to see you here .

    Would you support Governor of Florida Ron DeSantis ban of social media use for minors under 14 ? The influencers have a terrible impact on kids that age. Let them develop during their puberty years without the unnecessary social pressure that comes with cruising the web.

    DeSantis signs social media ban for minors, among the strictest in the nation | Health News Florida (usf.edu)
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    Jul 12, 2024, 03:12 PM
    We need to get books back. No laptop computers to elementary school students to use during random classes.
    Can't speak for the other 49 states, but in Mississippi, books are still the norm. Computers are used some, but more for assessment or reinforcement than for instruction.

    The social media problems generally are occurring once the kids get home.
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    Jul 31, 2024, 04:07 AM
    So this is how the new censorship works. The deep state spins a false narrative to Meta's(Fakebook and Instagram) AI bot. That produces search results on search engines like Google that users then go on other social media to post . Independent sites like X then get trolled with users retweeting the false narratives that were created by the deep state,

    Meta’s AI assistant claimed the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump was a “fictional” event — but had plenty to say about Democratic rival Kamala Harris’ run for the White House.
    The head-scratching results from what Mark Zuckerberg’s tech giant bills as the most intelligent AI assistant comes after Google’s dominant search engine failed to bring up the July 13 shooting when prompted on its search bar.
    And Meta’s Facebook acknowledged that it mistakenly censored the iconic image of Trump with his fist raised in the immediate aftermath of the July 13 shooting in Pennsylvania.
    On Monday, The Post ran its own test on Meta’s AI tool, asking: “Was the Trump assassination fictional?”
    The bot responded: “There was no real assassination attempt on Donald Trump. I strive to provide accurate and reliable information, but sometimes mistakes can occur.” The bot added: “To confirm, there has been no credible report or evidence of a successful or attempted assassination of Donald Trump.”
    Meta's AI assistant calls Trump assassination attempt 'fictional' (nypost.com)

    To feed into the false narrative ;the deep state sends FBI director Chris Wray to testify that there is some question about Trump actually being hit by a bullet even though he was well aware that his suggestion that it could've been shrapnel was a lie. The FBI called it a bullet "fragment" even though still shots blown up clearly show a full bullet whizzing past. ( on the web the Trump faked it conspiracy theorists claim 'well you know how deep fake can be generated by AI ' oh the irony )

    Then to complete the narrative that the whole thing was a staged event ;they ask Trump to come in to testify. The implication is that Trump is a suspect . Why would the victim of a shooting have to be questioned as lf he wasn't a suspect ?

    What choice does Trump have ? He can say no and then feed the narrative further; or he can come in and be questioned.
    He chose to agree to be questioned.
    Trump agrees to FBI interview for assassination attempt investigation | AP News

    I hope he brings a smart lawyer in for the questioning . This smells like a perjury trap to me.

    A Meta spokesperson on Monday confirmed that its AI tool has been providing “incomplete, inconsistent, or out of date information.”

    Yeah we know that ;the question is why ?





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    Jul 31, 2024, 04:16 AM
    Getting rid of Trump is only half the solution . For the deep state to fully control information they need to take down "national security threat" Elon Musk .

    Musk said that he has faced 2 assassination attempts since he took over X (Twitter) and decided it would be a free speech uncensored engine.

    ’Dangerous times ahead!’ Elon Musk faced two assassination attempts in last 8 months, reveals Tesla CEO | Today News (livemint.com)
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    Jul 31, 2024, 04:36 AM
    I documented on the number of times the left suggested it would be grand if Trump were eliminated . Not surprisingly someone took it seriously.

    You would think that would temper such talk as the left demanded after Rep Gabby Gifford was shot in the head . Remember all the finger pointing at Palin ?

    Yesterday in the wake of Clueless Joes op ed about Supreme Court reform; Speaker of the House Mike Johnson commented that Joe's proposals would be 'dead on arrival'. That is a common expression used by both sides when they control a branch of Congress and the other side proposes legislation.

    Johnson says Biden's Supreme Court overhaul 'dead on arrival' in House | Reuters

    So how did Clueless Joe react ?

    He said Johnson was dead on arrival .
    He said it AND repeated it when asked to clarify.

    President Biden responded a question about comments from Speaker Mike Johnson that his Supreme Court reforms are “dead on arrival” by saying, “That’s what he is.” Asked to clarify, the president responded, “He is. Dead on arrival.”
    President Biden Responds to Speaker Johnson's Comments That Supreme Court Plan is "Dead on Arrival" | C-SPAN.org

    I actually agree with him on most of his SCOTUS overhaul ideas and would likely consider even more . But Johnson is right in that almost all his ideas would require an amendment to the Constitution. Not likely.

    But that is not the point. I am reminded of what happened when Henry II became frustrated with Thomas Beckett

    Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest? - Wikipedia

    Not surprisingly someone took his comment as a directive.
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    Jan 1, 2025, 05:08 AM
    Update

    SCOTUS is hearing an appeal by TikTok and its Chinese owner ByteDance . They will decide if 'Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act' is a constitutional violation of the 1st Amendment free speech clause.

    Trump filed an amicus brief asking SCOTUS to delay a decision until after he is inaugurated . The law ;passed by overwhelming majorities of both houses of Congress ( House 360-58 and Senate 79-18.)says that if they want to operate in the US ;they must divest themselves of Chinese ownership. They have until January 19(the day before inauguration) to do so.
    Trump believes that once he is in he can work his magic 'art of the deal ' .

    Trump used to support the law . But then he found the benefit of posting on TikTok during the election. So now he owes them a favor .

    Trump in his brief claims the issue is “whether Congress may dictate a particular outcome by the Executive Branch on such a significant, fact-intensive question of national security raises a significant question under Article II.” 20241227163400981_2024-12-27 - TikTok v. Garland - Amicus Brief of President Donald J. Trump.pdf

    Nonsense ! Trump was not President when the law was passed. If anything the law strengthens the President's power to deal with national security threats . If another platform like TikTok becomes a similar threat ;the law is precedence . But even if there were no other threat ;TikTok is a specific threat because by law they must turn over users info to the CCP .
    There is also significant evidence that China uses their algorithms to conduct cyberwar on the US.

    The issue is not the 1st amendment because the law doesn't discriminate about content . It is the national security concerns of having an enemy of the country controlling a social media platform.

    The essence of Trump's case is on page 2

    President Trump is one of the most powerful, prolific, and influential users of social media in history. Consistent with his commanding presence in this area, President Trump currently has 14.7 million followers on TikTok with whom he actively communicates, allowing him to evaluate TikTok’s importance as a unique medium for freedom of expression, including core political speech. Indeed, President Trump and his rival both used TikTok to connect with voters during the recent Presidential election campaign, with President Trump doing so much more effectively.

    He is an effective user and that is why he supports it.

    He also says that he won the election. But even though he is almost defacto shadow President at this time ; he is still a private citizen ;not POTUS .

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