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    #41

    Nov 6, 2020, 02:50 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    congrats to Quid . Trump will appoint a special prosecutor on the way out . Taking bets on how long it takes the Dems to force him out due to corruption and/or incapable of serving as President .

    People will complain that Trump is pursuing a court remedy . He won't succeed . Like I said ,the time to make the challenges stick was before the count started .138,000 votes magically appearing all for Quid ? C'MON MAN
    yes seems unlikely some local dumb bum denorat wanting to steal the election looks like it was rampant
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    #42

    Nov 6, 2020, 03:33 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    138,000 votes magically appearing all for Quid ? C'MON MAN
    Tom, Tom, Tom, another false report from you. Don't you realize your lies are easily researched via google and every one has been false. I honestly believed you had more integrity than you are showing.

    Don't sell your soul for Trump. He's not worth it.
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    #43

    Nov 6, 2020, 05:38 PM
    Have some sympathy, I imagine right wing heads are exploding about now. I remember that feeling.
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    #44

    Nov 7, 2020, 02:28 PM
    Pending lawsuits and official recounts in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan and Wisconsin.
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    #45

    Nov 7, 2020, 02:56 PM
    Part of the process but good luck to the dufus finding tens of thousands of votes.
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    #46

    Nov 7, 2020, 03:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Pending lawsuits and official recounts in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan and Wisconsin.
    You noticed that the blue areas on those state maps are the cities full of POCs, small businesses and their owners, and the now unemployed, most of whom are not Trump supporters.
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    #47

    Nov 7, 2020, 03:46 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Pending lawsuits and official recounts in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan and Wisconsin.
    The lawsuits are being dismissed right and left by judges for lack of any evidence. Any that get through have no chance of changing enough votes. The only recount is in Georgia which will have zero effect on the election (in the remote chance it will effect the tally.)
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    #48

    Nov 7, 2020, 07:36 PM
    so much sour grapes, unfortunately Quid has a large majority in the popular vote, many dead people like him voting
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    #49

    Nov 7, 2020, 08:30 PM
    To be clear, the primary blame for Trump's defeat lies on...Trump. Biden did not win so much as Trump lost. In four years he learned nothing. He would not control his mouth or his ego, and in the end it cost him the few hundred thousand votes that would have made the difference. So we will endure four years of a senile pres. He will enjoy the support of nearly all the media. They will fawn over him daily. The economy will suffer, and workers will suffer, and abortion will grow ever more deadly, but the press will support him. Still, I don't think he will have a ghost of a chance four years from now, and that's assuming he hasn't died of old age by then which is certainly a realistic possibility.
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    #50

    Nov 8, 2020, 05:45 AM
    Biden will be a one term president like Trump, so the see-saw tips
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    #51

    Nov 8, 2020, 06:00 AM
    He will not serve a full term . The long knives of the Dems are already reflecting . They will either invoke the 25th amendment because of his advanced senility ;or force his resignation over his crime family racketeering .They want Commie Harris as President .
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    #52

    Nov 8, 2020, 06:06 AM
    Demonrats are demonrats, they will do whatever it takes to win and stay in power. Millions of votes trucked in, voters bused in, dead on electoral roles and you know what compulsory voting stops all that
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    #53

    Nov 8, 2020, 06:22 AM
    What would stop that is
    1. Having an election DAY
    2.NO same day registration
    3. All voters have ID
    4 . Registration rolls cleaned up to get rid of people who have moved and have passed away
    5 .National standards for the election of the Presidency (may need an amendment for that since the Constitution says state legislatures control the election process)
    6. Since legislatures control the process then any decision made by Governors and the court system must comply with the will of the legislature .
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    Nov 8, 2020, 06:29 AM
    1. Having an election DAY
    2.NO same day registration
    3. All voters have ID
    4 . Registration rolls cleaned up to get rid of people who have moved and have passed away
    5 .National standards for the election of the Presidency (may need an amendment for that since the Constitution says state legislatures control the election process)
    6. Since legislatures control the process then any decision made by Governors and the court system must comply with the will of the legislature .
    I assume your #1 would do away with the lunatic idea of mass voter mailouts? Counting ballots which arrive in the mail from whoever is the dumbest idea in our long history of voting, followed closely by any system which cannot produce a reliable vote total by the early morning hours of the day following the election.
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    #55

    Nov 8, 2020, 12:24 PM
    All things considered a fast result is secondary to an efficient one and despite the media declining a quick call as has been the practice in years past we still got the results of this very close race within days. Higher turn out means counting more votes, and I daresay high early voting had as great an impact as the mail in ballots, which will be quite popular looking forward.

    Would the right have felt better knowing the dufus lost by the next morning? Don't see how, but regardless we already knew the states wouldn't certify the results for several weeks after and despite the media call now we still have to honor that process, as well as the rightful lawful legal challenges.
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    #56

    Nov 8, 2020, 12:27 PM
    All things considered a fast result is secondary to an efficient one and despite the media declining a quick call as has been the practice in years past we still got the results of this very close race within days. Higher turn out means counting more votes, and I daresay high early voting had as great an impact as the mail in ballots, which will be quite popular looking forward.
    There is absolutely no vote security with many of the mail out schemes. The public having confidence in an honest vote count is essential. When there is no possible way to know if a vote came from a registered voter, then anyone with even half a brain can see it is open to corruption. It destroys voter confidence.
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    #57

    Nov 8, 2020, 01:10 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    There is absolutely no vote security with many of the mail out schemes.
    So ballots were sent out willy nilly -- and to whom? In Illinois ballots were sent out after applications had been received and approved (birthdates, signatures), same proofs as required when voting in person.
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    #58

    Nov 8, 2020, 02:42 PM
    So ballots were sent out willy nilly -- and to whom? In Illinois ballots were sent out after applications had been received and approved (birthdates, signatures), same proofs as required when voting in person.
    as opposed to PA where mail in ballots were mass sent out and received late with no signature check.
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    #59

    Nov 8, 2020, 03:16 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    as opposed to PA where mail in ballots were mass sent out and received late with no signature check.
    Every site about this indicates that the ballots were requested online or applied for by mail.
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    Nov 8, 2020, 04:01 PM
    voters in PA got scores of unsolicited mail in ballot requests sent to them .

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