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JB2116 · Nov 18, 2015, 08:02 AM

My water pressure drops pretty quick when using a shower or washer used to be able to open multiple faucets at same time but know pump can't keep up. Looked at wiring on pressure switch they have wires from panel going to two middles which say load and pump to outsides which say line is this correct. Also I believe pump may be overheating when using a lot of water the pressure switch will come on but will shut off before cut off pressure. Any suggestions

jlisenbe · Nov 18, 2015, 08:58 AM

They have it backwards, though I don't think it is a big issue. Still, check out the diagram below. Disregard the pumptec device.

Sounds like you might have a waterlogged tank. There should be an air valve at the top. Depress the stem a few seconds. If water comes out, then the tank is bad and should be replaced.

It is possible that the pump is overheating from having to come on/off so frequently. With a good pressure tank, the pressure should go down slowly as water is used, and go up slowly when the pump cuts on. I mean slowly as in at least a couple of minutes.

JB2116 · Nov 18, 2015, 09:15 AM

Checked no water coming out used pressure gauge and also tapped on top and bottom of tank two different thuds thinking it's a bad pump or low well

JB2116 · Nov 18, 2015, 09:58 AM

The pressure will go down somewhat slow but if you open multiple faucets it goes down fast takes time to build pressure back up when you close faucets but can't keep up when there open

I had done some electrical work the day it started I moved a few things around in main panel. Pressure switch is wired straight to panel black wire to breaker and white is wired to strip in back does this sound correct

hkstroud · Nov 18, 2015, 10:44 AM

Pressure switch is wired straight to panel black wire to breaker and white is wired to strip in back does this sound correct

That sounds like a 120V wiring. Most submersible pumps are 240V.

wired to strip in back

Do you mean the neutral buss (where all the other white wires are connected?)

JB2116 · Nov 18, 2015, 04:55 PM

Yes we're should I hook the white wire to same breaker as black or on a separate one, plus pressure switch is 20/40 and cut in and out is 40/60 is that sound right

JB2116 · Nov 18, 2015, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by hkstroud

That sounds like a 120V wiring. Most submersible pumps are 240V.

Do you mean the neutral buss (where all the other white wires are connected?)

Yes, should the white be on same breaker as black or separate

hkstroud · Nov 18, 2015, 06:02 PM

Assuming that the pump is 240V, both wires should go to a double pole breaker.

I had done some electrical work the day it started I moved a few things around in main panel

Implication is that it was properly wired and you changed it.

Why?

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plus pressure switch is 20/40 and cut in and out is 40/60 is that sound right

A pressure switch is a pressure switch. A 20/40 pressure switch just comes set at 20/40. You can set it to anything you want.

JB2116 · Nov 18, 2015, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by hkstroud

Assuming that the pump is 240V, both wires should go to a double pole breaker.

Implication is that it was properly wired and you changed it.

Why?

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A pressure switch is a pressure switch. A 20/40 pressure switch just comes set at 20/40. You can set it to anything you want.

Didn't mean to was checking on power to my mudroom and some wires got moved but I tried running it at 240 won't run only runs at 120 could it be a bad pressure switch

hkstroud · Nov 18, 2015, 06:21 PM

Do you know the make and model number of the pump?

How did you connect it when you tried 240V? If the pump was originally wired for 240V there should be double pole breaker for it. You do know what a double pole breaker is don't you?

JB2116 · Nov 18, 2015, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by hkstroud

Do you know the make and model number of the pump?

How did you connect it when you tried 240V? If the pump was originally wired for 240V there should be double pole breaker for it. You do know what a double pole breaker is don't you?

Yes didn't have a double I hooked to two separate breakers

hkstroud · Nov 18, 2015, 06:42 PM

Then those breakers must be immediately adjacent to one another (side by side).

JB2116 · Nov 18, 2015, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by hkstroud

Then those breakers must be immediately adjacent to one another (side by side).

OK thank you for that and don't know what kind of pump will try breakers and post tomorrow thank u

hkstroud · Nov 18, 2015, 07:15 PM

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jlisenbe · Nov 18, 2015, 07:55 PM

If you hook to 1 and 5 and then to a pressure switch, you just end up with an open circuit as there is no ground. In other words, the pump would not work at all. It would be the same as simply running the black off 1 but not running a white at all. Same result.

Pretty good detective work by HK.

JB2116 · Nov 18, 2015, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by jlisenbe

If you hook to 1 and 5 and then to a pressure switch, you just end up with an open circuit as there is no ground. In other words, the pump would not work at all. It would be the same as simply running the black off 1 but not running a white at all. Same result.

Pretty good detective work by HK.

Ya I hooked on both sides when cut in pressure hits sets switch and stops nothing

JB2116 · Nov 21, 2015, 04:02 PM

Do you have to drain pressure tank of water to check pressure and checking it when filled should it be same pressure as shown on gauge don't mean to sound stupid or waste people's time, just don't know about well systems and can't afford someone to look at it

hkstroud · Nov 21, 2015, 04:44 PM

Yes you have to drain the tank to check the pre-charge pressure.

jlisenbe · Nov 22, 2015, 08:22 PM

You need to open a low level faucet until pressure drains to zero. You can then set your tank pressure.

should it be same pressure as shown on gauge

Not too sure what you mean by that. The tank pressure should be 2# below the cut in pressure for the system.