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    Mar 1, 2015, 07:36 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    could be . Instead of directly banning free speech dictators grab the means of access ;the news print ,the ink ,the internet . If a dictator wants to ban coal production he doesn't outlaw the burning of coal ,he bankrupts the coal companies. If a dictator wants to ban AR-15 rifles despite the 2nd Amendment ,and Congress fails to enact legislation he wants , then he 1st directs his Federal agencies to purchase every available bullet for the rifle ......then he orders the reclassification of AR-15 bullets as a threat to lawmen, effectively banning them ,and in the process doing a back door ban on the rifle itself.
    The emperor has already proven by the above examples ;and by Fast and Furious....an attempt to create chaos as a precursor to a gun ban ,that he will stop at nothing to achieve his goal...making the 2nd amendment irrelevant .
    He has already driven many gun shops out of business with his bullet grab ,and unleashing his bureaucratic army on them with regulation and inspection. He will not be satisfied until he imposes his will on the American people. This unconstitutional bullet decision is but another example of the lengths he will go .
    Tom, this isnt the first time they have banned a bulet. Before this many years ago they banned a bullet called a black talon. They claimed it to be a "cop killer". They were successful in taking it off the market but the market survived. In this case they are looking at a specific bullet. Not the entire range of bullets available to the 223/556 format. So for now it is a matter of wait and see rather then jumping up and down screaming to see what the endgame is.
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    Mar 1, 2015, 09:03 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    In this case they are looking at a specific bullet. Not the entire range of bullets available to the 223/556 format. So for now it is a matter of wait and see rather then jumping up and down screaming to see what the endgame is.
    As one Huffpo writer put it:
    In this instance, this causes me to conclude that BATFE is stretching the rubber band of interpreting the law to create bureaucratic rules a bit too much.
    He seems to think this ruling is designed to create shortages again, and worries about the consequences on the 2016 elections.
    Executive Order M855Â |Â Dennis Santiago

    Personally, I prefer .30 caliber.
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    Mar 1, 2015, 09:48 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    What type of test you you suggest?
    Something people who have actually graduated High school would pass is sufficient. Besides having to prove you are actually a citizen and have the right to vote.
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    Mar 1, 2015, 11:02 AM
    The emperor has the support of the so called intellectual class ;the Ivy League egg heads ,the teacher's unions . I'm more inclined to go with William F Buckley's famous quote.I'd rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in the Boston telephone directory than to the faculty of Harvard University.
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    Mar 1, 2015, 02:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Something people who have actually graduated High school would pass is sufficient. Besides having to prove you are actually a citizen and have the right to vote.
    Here's a radical idea. Everybody has to EARN their franchise, either with service or intellectual prowess by donating a patent to the Feds. Not my idea, it was proposed in 1967 in Heinlein's Starship Troopers. That would satisfy the Fascists on both Left and Right.
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    Mar 1, 2015, 03:24 PM
    Yes a couple of years of army service proves your intelligence the Romans actually had the idea first two thousand years ago no a simple test of your faithfulness to the system amass ten thousand dollars in your savings account

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