[talaniman]

"Land, because of its unique nature and the crucial role it plays in human settlements cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market,"

Private land ownership is also a principal instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth and therefore contributes to social injustice; if unchecked, it may become a major obstacle in the planning and implementation of development schemes."

UN Agenda 21(The Vancouver Action Plan. D. Land )
The Vancouver Action Plan. D. Land - A/CONF.70/15 Chapter II - UN Documents: Gathering a body of global agreements

Are you changing sides and agreeing the free use of federal lands by a private citizen is not a good thing?

[paraclete]

I think we need to get all our ducks in a row, certain actions were very high handed but apparently necessary in the face of recalcitrant tenant who would not pay his rent, a peaceful demonstration did not lead to acts of violence from either side, there are people in this world who have agendas, whether it is pertinent to this debate is mute

[Catsmine]

While I applaud and support the protesters' demonstration against the high handed tactics of the Federal agents, strategically this is not the best place for States' rights and Individual Liberty activists to take a stand. Reid is a crook, a given since he's a politician, but Bundy is rather ignorant in his views of Nevada's charter of Statehood. The best possible outcome for this is Reid's exposure and hopefully defeat in the elections and Bundy settling his bill.

Debates on the principles of Federal land ownership are fine, but they belong in the Statehouse, not the desert sun.

[tomder55]

Are you changing sides and agreeing the free use of federal lands by a private citizen is not a good thing?

No ,I thought I made it clear that I don't support the Federal Government owning almost a 3rd of the land mass of the nation.
My question is why do you favor as an alternative ,an eviction so Reid can profit from a rent seeker arrangement ? You cannot ignore or deny that the 200% in fees was designed to drive the ranchers off the land (and BLM was successful in driving all but one rancher off the land ) .

[tomder55]

While I applaud and support the protesters' demonstration against the high handed tactics of the Federal agents, strategically this is not the best place for States' rights and Individual Liberty activists to take a stand. Reid is a crook, a given since he's a politician, but Bundy is rather ignorant in his views of Nevada's charter of Statehood. The best possible outcome for this is Reid's exposure and hopefully defeat in the elections and Bundy settling his bill.

Debates on the principles of Federal land ownership are fine, but they belong in the Statehouse, not the desert sun.

I'm sure the eastern liberal states are fine with this arrangement since there is a very small percentage of state land owned by the Feds in the east . The difference puts the western states at a competitive and tax disadvantage compared with Eastern states . What kind of nonsense is it that a State of the union only has sovereignty over less than 20 % of it's land ?

[smoothy]

[smoothy]

Feds Desperate to Hide Harry Reid Link to Bundy Land Grab

Posted on April 16, 2014 by Paul Joseph Watson
BLM deletes Google cache of explosive document



The feds are so desperate to hide Harry Reid's connection to a Communist Chinese energy company linked to the Cliven Bundy land grab, they are now even deleting Google's cached version of an explosive document originally deleted from the BLM website.


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What else would anyone expect from the most corrupt administration with the most corrupt political party in the history of this country.

[paraclete]

conspiracy theory

[talaniman]

How else can they defend trespassing and stealing?

[smoothy]

Tresspassing and stealing by the government? THis is yet another case of the government and the media that are in bed with them spreading misinformation about what's really happening.

Is ANYONE foolish enough to believe anything Harry Reid says...or trust anything he does.....after 6 years of the most corrupt administration to ever plague this country

[talaniman]

Nice spin, but fact is Bundy lost in court and had ample opportunity to prove it was Harry's fault not his.

[smoothy]

Harry is in Bed with the Chinese to line his own pockets and this is all a diversion to divert attention from where it really should be.

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/04...-upon-america/

[talaniman]

Or you are diverting attention from the wrong doing of this rancher for 20 years with soaring rhetoric, and conspiracy theories. Fed to you by extremists, and right wing fringe loony's. None of which will change the court rulings. It's a done deal and all over with except for the shouting.

[tomder55]

the fact that the Feds left when the information about the Reid connection was revealed is proof enough .

[talaniman]

>SIGH< They didn't leave, they backed off to keep from killing protestors. You showed the fence and its being worked out in a peaceful, non violent way, between Bundy and the law, without the noise and rabble from the gun toting crowd.

[smoothy]

Really... I seem to rememebr Ruby ridge where innocent people got killed by the FBI for doing absolutely nothing wrong either.

THis is all about yet another Democrat scandle they are running away from when the facts come out despite near total control of the media by the DNC.

[talaniman]

It should be noted that the government lost in court, and paid damages to the Weavers family in civil courts.

[smoothy]

Harry Reid could be on Youtube video playing spin the tyke on the pole... and the dems would defend him doing it.

[talaniman]

I have defended the lawful court process that says the rancher gets off federal lands and pays what he owes for years of free usage. Texas does business with many foreign nations, why shouldn't Nevada or any other state?

[smoothy]

You are parroting what Harry Ried wants you and everyone else to think happened... and ignoring what's really been going on out there... which are two VERY different things.