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    Mar 7, 2014, 06:49 PM
    No water
    Flushed toilet last night then pump wouldn't shut off. Was getting water from faucets last night but pressure was a little low. Place down the road said my bladder should be at 40 psi. I did that and now I have no water. I've learned since then that it should be 18 psi. My cut in is 20 psi and 40 osi cut out. Opening faucets did not lower pressure at bladder. Had to release at tank. When I open the area to prime it is full of water but I don't think there's water in my tank. Should I replace the bladder? What is my next step?
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    Mar 7, 2014, 08:02 PM
    I don't think your tank is bad. I am assuming that you have reset the tank to 18 and you are getting no water at all when the pump is running. Pump seems to be primed but won't pump and that points to the pump. How old is it? You might want to pull the impeller cage cover off and check the impellers.

    You are correct on setting the tank. If your cutin is 20#, then the tank should be set at 18. Do this with power off and pressure drained to zero.
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    Mar 7, 2014, 09:06 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I don't think your tank is bad. I am assuming that you have reset the tank to 18 and you are getting no water at all when the pump is running. Pump seems to be primed but won't pump and that points to the pump. How old is it? You might want to pull the impeller cage cover off and check the impellers.

    You are correct on setting the tank. If your cutin is 20#, then the tank should be set at 18. Do this with power off and pressure drained to zero.
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    Mar 7, 2014, 09:40 PM
    When I reset the pressure on the tank I didn't take it down to zero. I couldn't get the pressure to come down by opening a faucet so I only let out enough pressure to bring it down from 40# to 18#. The power was off at the time. Should I have taken it down to 0 then put in 18#? I had moved crap so much on the switch that I just bought a new one and installed it. Well was drilled 19.5 yrs ago with a new foot valve and piping. Rebuilt pump was installed at the same time. We've never done anything with the entire system since. Have had no issues till now.
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    Mar 8, 2014, 04:27 AM
    Turn off the power and open the lowest faucet you have. Drain to as close to zero as you can get. You will then adjust the bladder pressure by using the air valve at the top of the tank. Use a tire gauge to read the pressure there. That is where you will want to have 18.

    How many pipes go into the well, one or two?
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    Mar 8, 2014, 10:22 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Turn off the power and open the lowest faucet you have. Drain to as close to zero as you can get. You will then adjust the bladder pressure by using the air valve at the top of the tank. Use a tire gauge to read the pressure there. That is where you will want to have 18.

    How many pipes go into the well, one or two?
    There is one pipe going out through the wall. My understanding is that there'sa second smaller one inside that one. We have a deep well. I have 18# at he top of the tank. Should I first take it down to 0 then put in 18#?
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    Mar 8, 2014, 10:32 AM
    No. If it reads 18 with power off and tank pressure drained to zero, then you are good.

    I just really don't believe the tank is your problem. The pump generates pressure in a system, not the tank. If you look at your pump, you will see either two or three pipes coming out. One will go to the tank, the other two to the well. OR you might have a pump with one to the well and one to the tank. I'm asking because, if you look in the priming port and it is full of water, then the pump should work. If you have no pressure, then there is an issue with either the pump, the wellpipe, or the water table. Name: sta-rite-snf-l-deep-well-jet-pump_4790_500.jpg Views: 114 Size: 15.5 KBName: fl-series.jpg Views: 71 Size: 55.0 KB
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    Mar 8, 2014, 12:04 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    No. If it reads 18 with power off and tank pressure drained to zero, then you are good.

    I just really don't believe the tank is your problem. The pump generates pressure in a system, not the tank. If you look at your pump, you will see either two or three pipes coming out. One will go to the tank, the other two to the well. OR you might have a pump with one to the well and one to the tank. I'm asking because, if you look in the priming port and it is full of water, then the pump should work. If you have no pressure, then there is an issue with either the pump, the wellpipe, or the water table. Name: sta-rite-snf-l-deep-well-jet-pump_4790_500.jpg Views: 114 Size: 15.5 KBName: fl-series.jpg Views: 71 Size: 55.0 KB
    Our pump looks like the second picture. There's a faucet at pump. Pump is primed but no water comes out of it when I turn the pump on. Pump? We're fairly close to the river here and have been told we should never have a water table issue. We hit water at 40 ft and well is drilled to 60 ft.
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    Mar 8, 2014, 06:52 PM
    I'd pull the impeller cage and check the impellers, just so I could say I did. You might find some damage there that can be fixed. Still, sure sounds like a pump problem.

    Others on this board might have some other suggestions.
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    Mar 8, 2014, 07:31 PM
    What kind of pressure switch do you have?
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    Mar 10, 2014, 07:43 PM
    Put in new pump,can only get about a gallon in for prime,turn pump on and get zero pressure,and no water.
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    Mar 11, 2014, 05:23 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by curt457 View Post
    Put in new pump,can only get about a gallon in for prime,turn pump on and get zero pressure,and no water.

    Can you post a pic of this single/double pipe which comes through the wall into the pump? You might be to the point of needing to check the wellpipe. Could be time to call in a pro.

    BTW, where are you located? Has cold weather been an issue this year?
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    Mar 11, 2014, 10:05 AM
    Quote Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Can you post a pic of this single/double pipe which comes through the wall into the pump? You might be to the point of needing to check the wellpipe. Could be time to call in a pro.

    BTW, where are you located? Has cold weather been an issue this year?
    Live in Wisconsin,just got out out of 20 and30 below temps.In the 40s and 50s,just in the last couple of days Warming up finally. CAN'T post picture of wellpipe at this time.Its just a pipe inside another pipe.
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