[paraclete]

All I can say is remember what happened to an other regime noted for it's cruelty and treatment of Christians, Rome once ruled the world but ultimately fell to the Christians, the Soviets, another brutal regime, tried to outlaw religion and destroyed Christian churches, where are they today? Kim would do well to remember that by the standard you judge you will be judged, nor can he be ignorant of this having been educated in the west. Just across the border is a nation that embraced christianity and prospered, surely the irony of this cannot escape him, he should appeal to his god, oh wait, he is his god

[speechlesstx]

Shockingly, a UN commission has discovered the obvious (after 5 decades or so), that the Norks have been committing "crimes against humanity."

“Systematic, widespread and gross human rights violations have been and are being committed” by the leaders of North Korea against their own people, the U.N.’s Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights declared Monday in a report that goes on to accuse that nation’s communist regime of “crimes against humanity.”


According to the U.N. investigators, “the gravity, scale and nature of these violations reveal a state that does not have any parallel in the contemporary world.” They conclude, for example, that “hundreds of thousands of political prisoners have perished” in prison camps over the past five decades.


The High Commissioner’s report calls on the U.N. Security Council to “refer the situation in the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea to the International Criminal Court.”


“The United Nations must ensure that those most responsible for the crimes against humanity committed in the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea are held accountable,” the report concludes.

Strong stuff from that feckless body, it remains to be seen if the actual Human Rights Council takes time out from condemning Israel and overlooking the violations by its own members to do any thing further about this committee's call to hold the Norks accountable.

[paraclete]

How do you hold a nation accountable for the actions of it's leader, it took years to bring Germany down and its leaders into court and noone wants another war on the Korean peninsula, so what we have is more hot air and attempts to have a case heard in the ICC. we have seen what happens to their rulings before

[talaniman]

I guess none of us humans is as perfect as we think we are, so we muddle through it. Short of choosing sides for WWIII, muddling forward is progress at least.

[speechlesstx]

I'm sorry, I just thought it was a nice change of pace to give the UN credit for doing something right for a change.

[paraclete]

Tal, we have already chosen sides for WWIII, I don't think there is much doubt of that, all that is in doubt is the commencement date and yes speech, the UN can be credited with talk on the subject, but short of another round of sanctions and another round of NK aggression, I fail to see where this takes us. The UN have stated the obvious, there were no surprises in their report. If they think Kim is intimidated by the ICC they are not thinking straight. Still monsters have been brought in from the cold before, Gaddafi became almost legitimate before his demise, so did Arafat.

[tomder55]

I guess the words "never again " is just another platitude .

[paraclete]

it's an aspiration Tom but with it goes the possibility we actually learned something

[tomder55]

no it aint . It's the words of people who saw the horror of the Nazi camps and said NEVER AGAIN !

[paraclete]

then it was not a platitude was it, wake up Tom, the world decided it couldn't happen again but it did and we didn't have to wait for NK it happened almost immediately in Russia, I know there were no ovens, but the camps, the enforced labour the starvation and what did these people do?, did they intervene? spare me the crocodile tears