[excon]

Hello again, tom:

One candidate told us that if we like our insurance and doctors we could keep em .

It's true. He shoulda told them that they'll get BETTER policies under Obamacare. It might cost them a little more, but they'll have REAL insurance, instead of the CRAP they're now losing.

excon

[speechlesstx]

I'm sorry, but I must be in some fairy tale or something because I fail to see how triple the price, triple the out of pocket, triple the annual cap and fewer choices in providers is better.

[excon]

Hello again, Steve:

because I fail to see

Truer words were never spoken.

excon

[speechlesstx]

Hello again, Steve:
Truer words were never spoken.

excon

By all means, tell me how how triple the price, triple the out of pocket, triple the annual cap and fewer choices in providers is better.

[Wondergirl]

By all means, tell me how how triple the price, triple the out of pocket, triple the annual cap and fewer choices in providers is better.

Better/broader coverage, probably lower copays, low deductible.

[speechlesstx]

Better/broader coverage, probably lower copays, low deductible.

Did you even read what we've been saying? Triple the price, triple the out of pocket, triple the annual cap and fewer choices, and you can add the others which we've already shown as well, higher co-pays, higher deductibles. The only thing better is you can't be canceled and everyone gets contraceptives.

[paraclete]

. The only thing better is you can't be canceled and everyone gets contraceptives.

Now there is a lesson in that isn't there, some one wants you to be happy

[Wondergirl]

The only thing better is you can't be canceled and everyone gets contraceptives.

And any health condition will be treated and paid or (no exclusions) plus I can get my abortion paid for too.

[speechlesstx]

And any health condition will be treated and paid or (no exclusions) plus I can get my abortion paid for too.

If you aren't broke from paying the premiums first or die from not being able to see your cancer doctor any more, that might be relevant.

[tomder55]

Hello again, tom:
It's true. He shoulda told them that they'll get BETTER policies under Obamacare. It might cost them a little more, but they'll have REAL insurance, instead of the CRAP they're now losing.

excon

Yeah that advanced stage cancer patient who now doesn't have insurance or doctors takes solace in having her abortion pills paid for

[Wondergirl]

Yeah that advanced stage cancer patient who now doesn't have insurance or doctors takes solace in having her abortion pills paid for

And she won't have to worry about getting pregnant again because her contraceptives are covered.

[tomder55]

She is concerned about dying... the death panel just made that call for her .

[Wondergirl]

She is concerned about dying... the death panel just made that call for her .

Naw, you have to live life to the fullest even when you might die. Been there, done that.

[speechlesstx]

Naw, you have to live life to the fullest even when you might die. Been there, done that.

Well that was exceptionally compassionate.

[tomder55]

I don't suppose you read the link Speech provided where the woman's critical care and doctors of her choice are going to be denied to her.
This is too serious for flippancy . She had coverage and doctors that suited her needs and now she doesn't . Her's wasn't a bare bone plan. It was a premium plan that she had no issue with .
A Stage-4 Gallblader Cancer Survivor Says: I Am One of ObamaCare's Losers - WSJ.com

[Wondergirl]

Well that was exceptionally compassionate.

Have you been there and done that?

[talaniman]

Why are you not as compassionate about the millions who had been kicked off their insurance, and couldn't get more because of pre existing conditions? Don't they deserve to live too? Why isn't the woman with cancer eligible for subsidies to help her with her premiums?

Don't act like you care when you never have and its disingenuous to cherry pick horror stories like that's the only story. If you tried you would find them. You don't care about the woman in California. You just want to use her story to advance your narrative.

That's pretty shady since you have advanced the notion of profits before people many times before.

[tomder55]

Her insurance company had paid well over $1 million to cover her . Obviously that greedy insurance company put profits before her. Before this monstrosity Obamacare ,there were around 4% of Americans in the private market . Of those ,1 in 8 had preexisting conditions that meant they paid more in premiums . A few others were denied. Let's say combined we are talking about 1.5 million affected . Those could've been easily addressed with subsidies without blowing up the whole system that worked well for 96 percent of the rest of us .
Contrast that with 2 million Americans have already lost their private health care coverage…lost the coverage they were happy with and lost the doctors they knew and trusted. They will get insurance that they have to pay more for . I'll believe your subsidy lie when I see it. You can't expand coverage in a vacuum ;someone pays for it . Who will ? The invincibles ?
And that's just the beginning. The numbers of those dropped under Obamacare could actually reach upwards of 16 million once happy with their plans American citizens. That would be in other words ,the vast majority of those previously covered under private insurance.

[speechlesstx]

Have you been there and done that?

This isn't about me, it's about your flippancy toward this woman's situation.

[speechlesstx]

America can't even keep it's past white Republican presidents...