[talaniman]

Woman have been terminating pregnancies for centuries. Men still don't know when they do and I doubt they ever will but targeting those that depend on walk in clinics is a rather cowardly way of doing things.

And even more hypocritical in my view is getting between a doctor and patient with laws passed by republican lawmakers always men for some reason against objections by women. What would we call unwanted advice and help for someone that isn't affected by that help and advice?

You want to stop abortions and Planned Parenthood, then give females money, doctors, and insurance. And stop the hypocrisy,

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/0...rtion-Edition#

So if this bill passes, it provides Rick Perry's sister's company an opportunity to move into a new field, one where poor women can be charged an exorbitant rate for a desperate procedure. Expect abortions in Texas to continue, just at 2-3 times the previous going rates.

http://texasascsociety.org/

Destroying the completion is a great way to make MO' money so its not about the patients completely but a new revenue stream. Helps if your brother is the GOVENOR.

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It's about money in Texas, not morals. And lets be clear about Perry's decision to not support Medicaid expansion to his uninsured citizens. Its about him running for president, as he knows the NEXT governor WILL expand to save money and his sister will get that money for her company without it being an issue.

I daresay funneling tax payer money from the government to private businesses is so pervasive in this country its no wonder we are going broke with such corrupt business practices.

[speechlesstx]

Guess how many home births are not totally natural and need medical intervention of some kind. That little object doesn't just slip out effortlessly.

I never said intervention wasn't ever necessary in childbirth, I said it's natural. I said induced abortion is intentional medical intervention. Especially the one where they shove instruments up her vagina that can cause damage to the woman while they cut, crush and suck the life out of the child.

[Wondergirl]

I never said intervention wasn't ever necessary in childbirth, I said it's natural. I said induced abortion is intentional medical intervention. Especially the one where they shove instruments up her vagina that can cause damage to the woman while they cut, crush and suck the life out of the child.

How many women are able to have natural childbirth? From what I know, not many.

And the instrument probing and device shoving and life sucking are the norm?

[speechlesstx]

Moving along, it's obvious you people don't believe abortionists should meet even a minimum standard of care, and the Perry's sister thing was debunked months ago.

[talaniman]

Moving along, it's obvious you people don't believe abortionists should meet even a minimum standard of care, and the Perry's sister thing was debunked months ago.

I agree all facilities should have a high standard of healthy and safety, but we disagree as to how to get there. Just like we disagree how to address many problems we face as a country.

Trying to do better isn't an easy transition at all. Especially when you have no money to finance this mess. :(

[speechlesstx]

Stop wasting all our money.

[NeedKarma]

Wouldn't sending billions of dollars to Israel every year be a much bigger waste of your money instead of funding a high standard of safety for healthcare facilities?

[speechlesstx]

Wouldn't sending billions of dollars to Israel every year be a much bigger waste of your money instead of funding a high standard of safety for healthcare facilities?

What, you don't like Jews?

[talaniman]

Stop wasting all our money.

End corporate welfare, and tie tax rates to job creation. Thus reducing social welfare also. Just an idea.

[NeedKarma]

What, you don't like Jews?

Playing the anti-semitic card is lame and tired, it could be East Bucketstan for all I care, the amount given yearly is a terrible waste of taxpayer money.

[speechlesstx]

Playing the anti-semitic card is lame and tired, it could be East Bucketstan for all I care, the amount given yearly is a terrible waste of taxpayer money.

I don't consider supporting Israel a waste of money. Obama spent nearly 8 times our total aid to Israel since we began with a loan in 1949 in one swoop with his porkulus bill.

[NeedKarma]

But that likely won't happen again, yet that large sum goes to them every single year.

[speechlesstx]

But that likely won't happen again, yet that large sum goes to them every single year.

Whatever, one day everyone whines that we don't give enough foreign aid and the nest they when we give too much - to Israel - even though the emperor himself had over $3 billion in his last budget.

[NeedKarma]

one day everyone whines that we don't give enough foreign aid

I don't think that's ever the case.

[speechlesstx]

Breaking News

Federal judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

Federal judge: Texas abortion limits unconstitutional

Breaking news, federal appeals court reinstates Texas new abortion regs.

New restrictions on abortions in Texas went into effect Thursday night after a federal appeals court lifted an order that would have blocked them.

One provision requires any doctor performing abortions to have admitting privileges at a hospital within 30 miles of the clinic. On Monday, a federal district court judge in Austin said the requirement places an undue burden on a woman seeking a legal abortion and adds no medical value. The women's groups challenging the law said it would force about a third of the 36 abortion clinics in Texas to shut down. The judge blocked the law the day before it was going to take effect.

The state immediately appealed, and late Thursday a three-judge panel of the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals reversed that order, allowing the restriction to go into effect. The panel said the provision does have a valid medical purpose – helping to ensure that the credentials of doctors who perform abortions are current. The law, the court said, acts as another layer of protection for patient safety.

It's not an undue burden, the panel said, even though it may make it harder or more expensive for women in Texas to get access to an abortion clinic. The state, it said, has a legitimate interest in protecting the integrity of the medical profession.

[excon]

Hello Steve:

It AIN'T over till it's over.. We've heard from the lib judge, and we heard from a right wing 3 judge panel.. The NEXT level is the FULL panel OR the Supreme Court.

Personally, I think it IS a burden on low income women to have to travel LONG distances and spend LOTS of money for something that WAS available locally, but not now.

But, that's just me.

excon

[tomder55]

Yup there is always Gosnell like clinics for the low income.. right ? Or maybe the clinics can spend the money necessary to comply to mandated standards like every other business is expected to do.

[excon]

Hello again, tom:

Yup there is always Gosnell like clinics for the low income.. right ?

If you were pregnant, poor, and can't get a legal abortion, would you opt for (a) a Gosnell like clinic, or (b) a coathanger?

I know you THINK you're gonna force her to have her baby.. But you guys THINK laws against marijuana are gonna KEEP people from smoking marijuana.

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha.

excon

[speechlesstx]

We aren't the ones fighting every "layer of protection for patient safety" for women in need.

[tomder55]

Hello again, tom:
If you were pregnant, poor, and can't get a legal abortion, would you opt for (a) a Gosnell like clinic, or (b) a coathanger?

I know you THINK you're gonna force her to have her baby.. But you guys THINK laws against marijuana are gonna KEEP people from smoking marijuana.

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha.

excon

Let's say instead of an abortion factory we were talking about a Catholic clinic that ministers to the poor. Would you accept substandard facilities that don't comply with code ? Don't answer .I already know... You don't think that faith based charity should operate at all unless they violate their own convictions to comply with a law that violates their 1st amendment protections..